Warrior Spirit vs. Focused Weapon


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Hi there,

I'm currently playing a half-orc fighter (CN) in a pirate campaign.

On the next level (9th) I get to choose another AWT feature, and I am unsure about what to choose. I like both the warrior spirit and the focused weapon ability, both have advantages and disadvantages from my point of view.

Warrior spirit
Pro:
- Bane... it's so freakin' good... roll 5d6 damage with a butchering axe and get another +1 effectively
- Long duration (1 min), 3x per day at level 9

Con:
- Takes 1 round to activate or change

Focused weapon
Pro:
- Activate or change with a swift action
- Fits better with the character's background

Con:
- No bane...
- No bane... :)

How essential is giving up first round, possibly first two if surprised? Am I overrating bane?

What do you think?

Thanks for your advice.


If those are your 2 favorite things, you can choose them both. You get a Feat at level 9. That Feat can be Focused Weapon or Warrior Spirit, and your AWT can be the other one.

But you are using a Butchering Axe? That does a base Damage of 3d6. Focused Weapon would make the base Damage of your weapon 1d8 at level 9, 1d10 at level 10. If you are using the Butchering Axe, then you should probably not bother with Focused Weapon any time soon.


Scott Wilhelm wrote:
If those are your 2 favorite things, you can choose them both. You get a Feat at level 9. That Feat can be Focused Weapon or Warrior Spirit, and your AWT can be the other one.

I thought this wasn't possible, as the Advanced Weapon Training feat states: "This feat can be taken more than once, but at most once per 5 fighter levels."

You say it's possible, as AWT is a class ability and not a feat?

Quote:
But you are using a Butchering Axe? That does a base Damage of 3d6. Focused Weapon would make the base Damage of your weapon 1d8 at level 9, 1d10 at level 10. If you are using the Butchering Axe, then you should probably not bother with Focused Weapon any time soon.

My main focus is on the enhancement bonus and the option to choose a special ability. Regarding the base damage, the "Sacred wapon" ability (which is what you get with Focused weapon) states: "If the weapon’s base damage exceeds the sacred weapon damage, its damage is unchanged."

We are playing an adventure path, so I expect to get another AWT at 9th and maybe at 13th level (if we get there).


Razz26 wrote:

I thought this wasn't possible, as the Advanced Weapon Training feat states: "This feat can be taken more than once, but at most once per 5 fighter levels."

You say it's possible, as AWT is a class ability and not a feat?

A normal fighter gains an AWT option at lv 9, 13, and 17. The Advanced Weapon Training feat can be taken in addition to those class-given AWT options, but at most once for every five fighter levels you have.

So a lv 10 fighter could have three AWT options. One from the Weapon Training increase at lv 9, and two from taking the feat twice.

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Razz26 wrote:
My main focus is on the enhancement bonus and the option to choose a special ability. Regarding the base damage, the "Sacred wapon" ability (which is what you get with Focused weapon) states: "If the weapon’s base damage exceeds the sacred weapon damage, its damage is unchanged."

You seem to have misunderstood what the Focused Weapon AWT option does.

Fighter AWT: Focused Weapon wrote:
The fighter selects one weapon for which he has Weapon Focus and that belongs to the associated fighter weapon group. The fighter can deal damage with this weapon based on the damage of the warpriest’s sacred weapon class feature, treating his fighter level as his warpriest level. The fighter must have Weapon Focus with the selected weapon in order to choose this option.

You deal damage with your weapon as if you were a Warpriest with the Sacred Weapon class feature. You do not get the ability to enhance this weapon as a swift action.


Razz26 wrote:
Scott Wilhelm wrote:
If those are your 2 favorite things, you can choose them both. You get a Feat at level 9. That Feat can be Focused Weapon or Warrior Spirit, and your AWT can be the other one.

I thought this wasn't possible, as the Advanced Weapon Training feat states: "This feat can be taken more than once, but at most once per 5 fighter levels."

You say it's possible, as AWT is a class ability and not a feat?

It's a class ability that can be taken as a Feat. You can find it in the Class Description of Fighter under Advanced Weapon Training. So you can take one of them as an AWT and one of them as a Feat.

I wrote:
But you are using a Butchering Axe? That does a base Damage of 3d6. Focused Weapon would make the base Damage of your weapon 1d8 at level 9, 1d10 at level 10. If you are using the Butchering Axe, then you should probably not bother with Focused Weapon any time soon.
Razz26 wrote:
My main focus is on the enhancement bonus and the option to choose a special ability. Regarding the base damage, the "Sacred wapon" ability (which is what you get with Focused weapon) states: "If the weapon’s base damage exceeds the sacred weapon damage, its damage is unchanged."

So, I don't think Focused Weapon does anything for you if you are wielding a Butchering Axe.


Yeah focus... its more like scaling monk fist damage then enhance on a swift. Youd gain nothing out of given your chosen weapon. Making your choice pretty clear. Warrior spirit.

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