Damage Rider Effect


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If a creature has the following in its attack block:

Melee bite +5 (1d3-4 plus poison)

How would this creature ever deliver its poison without some type of damage buff? This is a Tiny creature that would never get such a buff. And I understand RAW that if the damage is negated, then any additional effects that result from that damage are also negated. The creature would always only do 1 point of non-lethal with no poison.


If the target had any DR it'd be safe (even DR 1/-) but otherwise it'd take 1 point of nonlethal damage and the poison. The damage isn't negated, it's just reduced to 1 nonlethal.


Yeah, only DR would eliminate the rider effect because damage is reduced to 0. 1 non-lethal damage would still be enough to deliver poison, though I agree it's a bit odd, but works.

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