Rogue Dedication says the following:
So if I happen to have Stealth and Thievery already, does this feat instead give me one extra skill or two extra skills?
The wording seems ambiguous enough to me that either interpretation could be valid.
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Rogue Dedication says the following:
So if I happen to have Stealth and Thievery already, does this feat instead give me one extra skill or two extra skills?
The wording seems ambiguous enough to me that either interpretation could be valid.
If you are trained in stealth you get thievery.
If you are trained in thievery you get stealth.If you are trained in both, as per the general rule and explicit wording in the feat, you get an additional skill of your choice.
"Each time after the first that you would gain the trained proficiency rank in a given skill, you instead allocate the trained proficiency to any other skill of your choice." [Core Rulebook pg. 233] All "if you are already trained in both Stealth and Thievery, you become trained in an additional skill of your choice" is doing is reiterating that rule.
I'm not seeing anything ambiguous here.
Rogue Dedication always gives two skills, one of which is Stealth or Thievery and the other is a free choice. If you're already trained in stealth and thievery, that pick becomes a free choice too.
I'm not seeing anything ambiguous here.
The statement after the semicolon seemed like it replaced everything before the semicolon. That would leave you with one skill from Rogue Dedication, rather than two.
I'm not seeing anything ambiguous here.The statement after the semicolon seemed like it replaced everything before the semicolon. That would leave you with one skill from Rogue Dedication, rather than two.
That is not how semicolons work. A semicolon separates two complete sentences, but denotes that the two sentences are closely related.
The word "additional" helps clarify the concepts. You become trained in (stealth or thievery) and (one skill of your choice). If the (stealth or thievery) is not an option, then get one additional skill instead, where "additional" means in addition to the (one skill of your choice).
The statement after the semicolon seemed like it replaced everything before the semicolon.
You get a choice of 2 skills AND a free skill pick. The part after the semicolon is telling you what to do if you can't make a choice because the options are already taken. it's clearly an if/then statement: IF you have already have both set skills in the first option, THEN you get a free skill pick. IMO, "if you are already trained in both Stealth and Thievery" makes it clear it's only targeting the section that deals with the skills in question.
Semicolon: "a punctuation mark; that can be used to separate parts of a sentence which need clearer separation than would be shown by a comma, to separate main clauses which have no conjunction between, and to separate phrases and clauses containing commas."
With a semicolon, you don't have to think of it as a different sentence but a longer pause in a single sentence. The the dedication you could replace the semicolon with an ', and' and it works the same. 'You become trained in Stealth or Thievery plus one skill of your choice, and if you are already trained in both Stealth and Thievery, you become trained in an additional skill of your choice' is functionally the same meaning.
A semicolon separates two complete sentences, but denotes that the two sentences are closely related.
Well, it's one way you can use one. It also works as a 'stronger' comma or a separation in list items.
You get a total of 2 skills. One of which must be stealth or thievery (with stealth being first if you're not already trained in it). If you are trained in both stealth and thievery, then both skills training can be freely chosen.