Athletics to use a lasso, net or bolo?

[The Ronyon]

Of the three, on the net has any listing in PF2,so far.
The bolo could be an improvised weapon with the ability to trip, and the lasso and net something similar.
So,even with a -2 for being improvised, would you allow this?

I'm interested, because I see an animal wrangling or even a technically pacifist bard as neat concepts.
The whip, sap and Daze spell are good starts, but I want more.

The lasso offers the biggest challenge, since one would expect it to offer ongoing control and maybe even grappling or reverse shoving.
Plus tying it to a saddle allows a mount to assist.

Items like tanglefoot bags and movement impairing snares seem to not do very much, thus my expectations are tempered.

[mrspaghetti]

The Ronyon wrote:

Of the three, on the net has any listing in PF2,so far.

The bolo could be an improvised weapon with the ability to trip, and the lasso and net something similar.
So,even with a -2 for being improvised, would you allow this?

I'm interested, because I see an animal wrangling or even a technically pacifist bard as neat concepts.
The whip, sap and Daze spell are good starts, but I want more.

The lasso offers the biggest challenge, since one would expect it to offer ongoing control and maybe even grappling or reverse shoving.
Plus tying it to a saddle allows a mount to assist.

Items like tanglefoot bags and movement impairing snares seem to not do very much, thus my expectations are tempered.

Sounds like a cool idea. I'd definitely allow it in a home game.

[Captain Morgan]

There are bolo bolts carried by duergar. You could use those potentially.

For a lasso, I'd look at Reel in abilities like Ropers and giant spiders have. You wouldn't immobilize the target per se, but it wouldn't be able to move further from you.

[rainzax]

Hurl Net
Single Action Requirement
The grippli is wielding a net in two hands. Effect The grippli makes a ranged Strike (with a +9 modifier) against a Medium or smaller creature within 20 feet. On a hit, the target is flat-footed and takes a –10-foot circumstance penalty to its Speeds. On a critical hit, the creature is restrained instead. The DC to Escape the net is 16. A creature adjacent to the target can Interact with the net to remove it.

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Building on this example, maybe "net" is a new category of weapon (including nets, lassos, bolas) that has a critical specialization of "immobilized until escape DC".

They do not damage, inflict a -10 status penalty to speed on a hit, and have different effects on critical hit:

Net - Restrained
Lasso - Grabbed
Bola - Prone

[Wheldrake]

Yes, it seems like a strange oversight that using a net as a weapon was hidden in the Grippli monster statistics. It seems like an obvious addition for a future splatbook to make nets, lassos and bolas more widely available.

[The Ronyon]

Thanks for the replies.
Rainzax, I like what you'
ve done there.
I would love it if any of them were finesse weapons, but I don't really see it.