Devastating Charge and Pounce...


Rules Questions


Charge
FAQ
Can Vital Strike be used on a charge?

No. Vital Strike can only be used as part of an attack action, which is a specific kind of standard action. Charging is a special kind of full-round action that includes the ability to make one melee attack, not one attack action.

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Charging is a special full-round action that allows you to move up to twice your speed and attack during the action. Charging, however, carries tight restrictions on how you can move.

Pounce (Ex)
FAQ

Can a creature with pounce make iterative attacks with weapons as part of my full attack?

Any melee attack sequence you can perform as a full attack is allowed as part of the charge-pounce-full attack. For example, a barbarian with the greater beast totem rage power gains the pounce universal monster ability and could make iterative attacks with manufactured melee weapons as part of her charge-pounce-full attack.

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If a creature with pounce is under a slow effect, and it charges, does it still get its full attack from pounce?

According to the rules as written, pounce would allow the creature its full attack, despite the slow effect. (This happens because there is no “partial charge” action.)

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If a creature with pounce is under a haste effect, and it charges, does it get the extra attack from haste?

Yes. This is a revised ruling about how haste interacts with effects that are essentially a full attack, even though the creature isn’t specifically using the full attack action (as required by haste). The earlier ruling implied that pounce did not allow the extra attack from haste because pounce wasn’t using the full attack action.

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When a creature with this special attack makes a charge, it can make a full attack (including rake attacks if the creature also has the rake ability).

Format: pounce; Location: Special Attacks.

Devastating Charge (Combat)

You put a lot of power behind your blows when you run into combat.

Prerequisite: Str 13, Power Attack, base attack bonus +1.

Benefit: When you are not mounted and you use the charge action, a successful attack deals an additional 2d4 points of damage. If you are using a 2-handed weapon, or a 1-handed weapon in 2 hands, you instead deal an additional, 3d4 points of damage.

Question: does the additional damage from Devastating Charge apply to every successful attack with Pounce?


Trying to make something fun out of the Monstrous Companion feat... which apparently caps at level 12 for said Monstrous Companion.

So, with an effective Druid level of 20 the Blink Dog gets 8 levels of UC Scout Rogue... and the entire line of Dimensional Savant feats... just need to retrain its existing feats to Power Attack and Devastating Charge... if this works.

Or Slayer, using Ranger Combat Style Slayer Talents... and the entire line of Dimensional Savant feats, whichever works best.

Either way, Sneak Attack damage, and Devastating Charge damage on every/both successful Dimensional Savant attack(s) MIGHT be usable with how pathetic the Monstrous Companion feat is, overall.

Might even be a way to work in the Disruptive animal companion archetype and the Disruptive/Spellbreaker feats if you are clever enough using Slayer for Power Attack, to get Devastating Charge...

I know there's a million better full level companions available, literally just trying to make something fun for this ridiculous feat.

And the honest question if Pounce and Devastating Charge interact...


So, as far as I can tell Devastating Charge would apply to every attack via pounce. Its a shame that its a 3rd party feat, otherwise i'd steal your idea for some of my builds :)


Since this is 3rd party material, Piazo isn't going to FAQ it. I will point out that it works similar to Spirited Charge which only gets its bonus on one attack. It is perfectly reasonable to say that a similar feat such as Devastating Charge should get the same treatment.

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