| LucySayStab |
This weapon seems pretty lackluster with only the finesse and versatile traits. Does anyone know if the devs said it was supposed to have the disarm trait as well? I ask because the Aldori Duelist archetype feat, Unnerving prowess, states that it triggers on a critical success to strike or "disarm with your Aldori dueling sword." I believe RAW you can only use a weapon to disarm if it has the disarm trait, otherwise you use a freehand to disarm.
| Arachnofiend |
Specific overrides general; normally you can't use the sword to disarm, but when the feat procs you can. Note that the Aldori Sword Style involves fighting with an open hand so you'll generally be able to perform combat maneuvers anyways, you just can't use the sword's item bonus on the check and have to get it elsewhere.
I agree it's pretty weak for an advanced weapon - it compares 1:1 with the shortsword, getting the next die size up in exchange for giving up agile. For a more proper example of an advanced weapon the necksplitter is just a d8 scimitar with no drawbacks other than needing to take a feat. There's still some builds that may be enticed by it but it does seem like it should be a martial weapon.
| vagrant-poet |
I also really feel like it is a misprint. It should probably be finesse, disarm, versatile P, d8 and clearly state that it's 20 sp not 20 gp.
It's a real shame, because swordlords are cool, and the archetpye requires you to learn to use the weapon, but the weapon isn't worth that/those feat/s apart from just loving the flavour.
Archpaladin Zousha
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Rogar Valertis wrote:Also 20 gp for a sword.That's confirmed as an error by the people at Paizo. It should be 2 GP.
Right, they confirmed that 20 GP Aldori swords DO exist, but they're "limited edition, one of a set of 100 swords forged by the Sword Baron's first student, with an official little certificate of authenticity and everything!" :P
| Arachnofiend |
I'm also inclined to houserule the sword having agile. It would make it more or less equivalent to the saw tooth saber, save with versatile swapped for twin, and perhaps disarm into the bargain.
Agile for the dueling sword would be out of line, I'm pretty sure. It also has a bigger damage dice than the saber so they aren't directly comparable like that.
Just adding disarm would make it fair.
| Perpdepog |
Perpdepog wrote:I'm also inclined to houserule the sword having agile. It would make it more or less equivalent to the saw tooth saber, save with versatile swapped for twin, and perhaps disarm into the bargain.Agile for the dueling sword would be out of line, I'm pretty sure. It also has a bigger damage dice than the saber so they aren't directly comparable like that.
Just adding disarm would make it fair.
I'm going to own up to a massive goof here. Somehow I got it into my head that the sawtooth saber was also a d8 weapon, which was why I thought giving the dueling sword agile would make them comperable.
I have no idea how that happened now... Thanks for pointing out my error.