I miss Androids :[

[keftiu]

Numeria is the thing that originally sold me on Pathfinder, and the mood tonight is definitely praying that we somehow don’t have to wait five years for an official Ancestry for our synthetic friends in 2e. I know they’re not the most universal thing in the world (and I’m sure many would never allow them), but they’re probably the single thing I miss most in the new edition.

Anyone else with me on this?

[Vidmaster7]

Yes but to be fair I want ALL the things.

[Perpdepog]

I'm a shameless genre masher, so yeah. I'm definitely on board with seeing androids and advanced tech in general come back to Pathfinder.
That being said I'm fine waiting a while. It'll make my laser-toting, be-jetpacked wizard more fun for the wait ... and there is always Starfinder in the meantime.

[Tender Tendrils]

I can understand that feeling, but I think they are a very niche element and that other ancestries that fit better into fantasy settings should be covered first (as they will be more generally useful across different games).

I think Wyrwoods or some kind of clockwork ancestry are a great idea though.

[Brew Bird]

Tender Tendrils wrote:

I can understand that feeling, but I think they are a very niche element and that other ancestries that fit better into fantasy settings should be covered first (as they will be more generally useful across different games).

I think Wyrwoods or some kind of clockwork ancestry are a great idea though.

I'd love to see a clockwork ancestry. I've sorely missed Warforged from the D&D days, and the Wyrwoods, while certainly interesting, were far less mechanical than what I was hoping for.

[graystone]

Vidmaster7 wrote:

Yes but to be fair I want ALL the things.

LOL Yeah I agree: I say a thread asking what ancestry did we want and my first thought was 'all of them!' Even is it's an ancestry I'll never play, I want to see it. ;)

[Zwordsman]

Yep. I'm more a tech/steampunk/magitech kind of pereson.
So base pathfinder lore never appealed to me much outside numeria stuff.. Which is probably the only lore I honestly know much off hand of.
Arcana of steamworks and magic is a great example of what I love.

I am fine without the lore. but I'd love if they slide a few specific bites in a suppliment somewhere down the line. Like 5 pages with a few tantizliing details

[Tiene]

Maybe someone here can sell me on the idea of fantasy androids; they just don't fit my sensibilities. I don't know why. I like leshies and other colorful critters as PCs, I like the IDEA of Spelljammer (never had a chance to play), gonzo settings in general are one of the kinds of settings I have a strong affinity for, but for some reason, "androids" just feel wrong to me. I think it's the "soul in a machine" aspect. For some reason "nature spirit in a plant/fungus" works for me but not "soul in a machine." Or maybe it's that they look human. Or maybe it's because I just can't think of a proper macroscopic niche for 'em in my settings where I try to make exotic ancestries as common as possible (a goblin-kin/orc/gnoll confederacy, a fishfolk kingdom, birdfolk who live like air nomads from Avatar). Maybe extraplanar or from a moon/space? Maybe experiments performed by ancient alchemists? I just feel like I can't make them "common."

But maybe if I can hear what people like about them, I can get a feel for how they should fit into my home-settings in such a way as to make players who are fans of them happy.

[keftiu]

Tiene wrote:

Maybe someone here can sell me on the idea of fantasy androids; they just don't fit my sensibilities. I don't know why. I like leshies and other colorful critters as PCs, I like the IDEA of Spelljammer (never had a chance to play), gonzo settings in general are one of the kinds of settings I have a strong affinity for, but for some reason, "androids" just feel wrong to me. I think it's the "soul in a machine" aspect. For some reason "nature spirit in a plant/fungus" works for me but not "soul in a machine." Or maybe it's that they look human. Or maybe it's because I just can't think of a proper macroscopic niche for 'em in my settings where I try to make exotic ancestries as common as possible (a goblin-kin/orc/gnoll confederacy, a fishfolk kingdom, birdfolk who live like air nomads from Avatar). Maybe extraplanar or from a moon/space? Maybe experiments performed by ancient alchemists? I just feel like I can't make them "common."

But maybe if I can hear what people like about them, I can get a feel for how they should fit into my home-settings in such a way as to make players who are fans of them happy.

I mean, the reason I like them is because their role in the official setting is “an ancient spaceship crashed into a barbarian wasteland and keeps producing newborn androids with no knowledge into this fantasy world,” because that’s incredible niche and weird and doesn’t happen in other settings. The genre clash is satisfying for me, and contained to one corner of the world when I don’t want it.

Plus, Pathfinder androids are very cute.

[LordVanya]

I need Androids because my Nth is one and he won't be in a 2e game unless I get an official version of hus ancestry.

[Perpdepog]

keftiu wrote:

Tiene wrote:

Maybe someone here can sell me on the idea of fantasy androids; they just don't fit my sensibilities. I don't know why. I like leshies and other colorful critters as PCs, I like the IDEA of Spelljammer (never had a chance to play), gonzo settings in general are one of the kinds of settings I have a strong affinity for, but for some reason, "androids" just feel wrong to me. I think it's the "soul in a machine" aspect. For some reason "nature spirit in a plant/fungus" works for me but not "soul in a machine." Or maybe it's that they look human. Or maybe it's because I just can't think of a proper macroscopic niche for 'em in my settings where I try to make exotic ancestries as common as possible (a goblin-kin/orc/gnoll confederacy, a fishfolk kingdom, birdfolk who live like air nomads from Avatar). Maybe extraplanar or from a moon/space? Maybe experiments performed by ancient alchemists? I just feel like I can't make them "common."

But maybe if I can hear what people like about them, I can get a feel for how they should fit into my home-settings in such a way as to make players who are fans of them happy.

I mean, the reason I like them is because their role in the official setting is “an ancient spaceship crashed into a barbarian wasteland and keeps producing newborn androids with no knowledge into this fantasy world,” because that’s incredible niche and weird and doesn’t happen in other settings. The genre clash is satisfying for me, and contained to one corner of the world when I don’t want it.

Plus, Pathfinder androids are very cute.

This right here. The clash between barbarian culture and logical androids (who can't get morale bonuses) is a really fun one to explore with a character in both a serious and cutesy, comedic way. Imagine an android trying to rage along with their buddies.

"Unpacking ANGERY.EXE."
"What was that, Skyhammer?"
"I said ... GRAAAAAAAAAAAAH!"
"Ha, that's more like it!"