Create Pit+Wall of Stone (or any other way to cover the top)=???


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When the duration of the spell ends, creatures within the hole rise up with the bottom of the pit until they are standing on the surface over the course of a single round.

So what happens if the top of the pit is covered somehow (With Wall of Stone being the first method that comes to mind)?


Pure rules, I think they'd be moved to the last legal position they occupied. To make the game feel less like a video game, I'd probably have the extra dimensional pit extend up through the new top surface.


I agree with ErichAD on this. For ease of play and rulings, they appear/get shunted to the nearest open space. At best, you could set a cage or dangerous area where they will appear (stinking cloud, summoned flying swarm, etc.) but letting people cheese grinder or pulp targets basically being shunted back from an extradimensional space will cause more trouble mechanics or balance-wise.


Link to a developer response from a few years ago.

The Exchange

From a GM perspective:

A couple of players came up with this a few years ago (using the Heavens Oracle “Moonlight Bridge” revelation as the cap). As they were high-fiving and congratulating each other I asked “are you sure you want it to work that way?”

“Yeah! He’s gonna get crushed in two rounds!”

“OK, but remember that what works for you works for NPCs as well.”

“. . .”


The nice thing about handwavey shunting answer is that the pit is both magical and extradimensional. The resulting behavior doesn't have to conform to the expectations of real-world physics.


General rule as far as I've seen in this game is "Unless it tells you they get hurt by movement. Movement never results in damage"

Surprisingly few effects result in damage upon forceful movement.

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