Falling Asleep as a Priest of the Fallen Spiritualist


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In the Phantom class feature text of a normal Spiritualist:

"While fully manifested, a phantom can’t be returned to the Ethereal Plane by means of dispel magic, but spells such as dismissal and banishment work normally. Whenever the spiritualist is unconscious or asleep, the phantom immediately returns to the spiritualist’s consciousness. If the spiritualist dies, the phantom is returned to the Ethereal Plane, and can’t return to the spiritualist’s consciousness until 24 hours after the spiritualist is brought back to life."

In the Mythmaker class feature text for the Priest of the Fallen archetype:

"A priest of the fallen can channel many different hero-god phantoms, though only one at a time.
These spirits will not suffer being confined in a mortal’s consciousness and must be manifested in ectoplasmic or incorporeal form or they return to the Ethereal Plane. They each have an emotional focus depending on their personality and retain some of their hero-god powers, determined by their mythic archetype. A priest of the fallen can channel a hero-god phantom with a ritual that takes 1 minute to perform. A priest of the fallen can channel only one hero-god phantom per 24 hours, but once channeled, a hero-god phantom remains until a new one is channeled."

If I am a Priest of the Fallen, can I keep my hero-god phantom around in ectoplasmic or incorporeal form when I sleep? If not, if I channel a hero-god phantom in the morning and take a nap at noon, am I barred from having a phantom for the rest of the day? Can I channel the hero-god phantom I did in the morning?


I think the specific to the archetype 'once channeled, a hero-god phantom remains until a new one is channeled.' would override the general 'Whenever the spiritualist is unconscious or asleep, the phantom immediately returns to the spiritualist’s consciousness.'

i.e. yes your hero-god phantom sticks around while you sleep. Though depending on the hero-god you might have a drill-sergeant yelling at you or worse if you summon them to watch you sleep.


Nothing about it changes that they disappear when the spiritualist is unconscious or asleep. They return to the ethereal plane. Don't take naps after summoning them.


willuwontu wrote:
Nothing about it changes that they disappear when the spiritualist is unconscious or asleep. They return to the ethereal plane. Don't take naps after summoning them.

If I sleep, I haven't channeled a new hero-god phantom. My channeled hero-god phantom shouldn't then go away.

I'm starting to think, though, that the "remains until a new one is channeled" part can get out of hand.
Is the hero-god phantom immune to banishment or dismissal?
Is it immune to being sent to the Ethereal Plane when it drops to -1000 hit points?
Does it stick around when the Priest of the Fallen Spiritualist dies for good?
In each of these cases, a new hero-god hasn't been channeled, and a hero-god phantom is different from a normal phantom, per the words: "This alters phantom and replaces shared consciousness."


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Could I have my spiritualist die so I can roleplay as an immortal ghost?

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