Kineticist blast work with Eldrich Archer Spell Combat?

[Lancelot33]

If someone were to multiclass an Eldrich Archer with a kineticist, since the kineticist's blast is a (spell like ability) with what I believe to be a ranged touch attack, would it then be possible to use the Eldrich Archer's spell combat to shoot say for example (a flaming arrow) using a longbow in unison?

[Arcaian]

From the Magus ability:

Spell Combat wrote:

and can also cast any spell from the magus spell list

Spell Strike wrote:

whenever a magus casts a spell with a range of “touch” from the magus spell list

As both specify the Magus spell list, and Eldritch Archer only modifies and not replaces these abilities, and doesn't list any changes to spell lists, definitely not - the kineticist's blast is not on their list. There are several reasons, but that's the easiest one! :)

[Lancelot33]

Arcaian wrote:

From the Magus ability:

Spell Combat wrote:

and can also cast any spell from the magus spell list

Spell Strike wrote:

whenever a magus casts a spell with a range of “touch” from the magus spell list

As both specify the Magus spell list, and Eldritch Archer only modifies and not replaces these abilities, and doesn't list any changes to spell lists, definitely not - the kineticist's blast is not on their list. There are several reasons, but that's the easiest one! :)

Thank you for your insight ^-^

[avr]

With a conductive longbow you could combine them though, with spell combat or without.

[Melkiador]

avr wrote:

With a conductive longbow you could combine them though, with spell combat or without.

But only with the touch attack blasts. Also, if the blast carries a burn cost, you probably have to pay that twice.

[Temperans]

Why pay twice? Conductive only activates once.

[Melkiador]

Quote:

When the wielder makes a successful attack of the appropriate type, he may choose to expend two uses of his magical ability to channel it through the weapon

So, if the blast carried burn, you would expend that burn twice.

[Temperans]

Burn isnt used to activate a blast (unless it's a composite blast). It is however used to modify the blast, which is partly why form infusions don't work with Conductive.

I mean I get why it might work that way, but blasts are weird, and don't follow the standard rules of such abilities having uses per day.