so a construct limb mod need to be a mod of a tiny or small construct.
Trompe l'oeil can be made of any 'corporeal creature that has an Intelligence score' which a Guardian Scroll is (int of 4 or 6 if upgraded to the magic Guardian Scroll, that is at the very bottom of the page).
so far seem to work, now what im trying to figure out is:
1: Requirements to do this seem to be :
-Requirements to make construct limb : Craft Construct, Craft Magic Arms and Armor, animate objects, Small or Tiny construct
&
-Requirements to make tTrompe l’Oeil : Craft Construct, animate objects, enter image; Skill Craft (painting) (no ranks mentioned ? is one enough?)
but i do not need anything from the crafting of the guardian scroll requirements.
is that correct?
2: the cost. seem like the actual cost of the Guardian Scroll isn't a factor as im painting it's image and only take into account it's hd (which mean the improved magic Guardian Scroll that cost 10,000 to add to normal Guardian Scroll doesn't even come into effect)
is the price 500Xhd + tiny picture worth of 500 correct?.
5 hd X 500 = 2,500 +500 = 3,000 gp crafting cost total + the limb mod cost of 27,000 gp
so a 30,000 cost?
3: the construct limb state that "the creator can use special attacks as if she were the construct" since the scroll have grab and constrict as it's special attacks. does that mean as the creator gain that as if he himself was the scroll that he has them as racial attack forms? asking to allow taking the Final Embrace feat tree. ('naga, serpentfolk, or creature that has the constrict special attack as a racial ability'
Not, it's not correct.
You necessary requirement are only for trompe l'oeil.
“Trompe l’oeil” is an inherited template that can be added to any corporeal creature that has an Intelligence score (referred to hereafter as the base creature).
As you said, guardian scroll has an Int score of 4 or 6.
Then :
This modification can be performed on a Small or Tiny construct, such as an iron cobra or a homunculus.|/quote]
Guardian scroll is a tiny construct, so it's ok.
A gardian scroll has 5 Hit Dice.
So CL 5th ( (equal to the trompe l’oeil’s HD)
Cost 500 gp per HD plus cost of painting (here 500 gp) = 1,000 gp
DC to craft with painting :
The DC to create a magic item is 5 + the caster level for the item.
+ 5 to the DC by requirement not satisfied.So if you have all requirement, the DC is 10, else 25 if you have no requirement (no craft (painting) and the 2 spells)
the limb mod is added to the Trompe after it's made. or are you suggesting make a trompe of a scroll guardian which was modifed as a limb.(which now that i think about technically might also work and save the 27,000...)
the limb mod is added to the Trompe after it's made. or are you suggesting make a trompe of a scroll guardian which was modifed as a limb.(which now that i think about technically might also work and save the 27,000...)
The second proposition.
3: the construct limb state that "the creator can use special attacks as if she were the construct" since the scroll have grab and constrict as it's special attacks. does that mean as the creator gain that as if he himself was the scroll that he has them as racial attack forms? asking to allow taking the Final Embrace feat tree. ('naga, serpentfolk, or creature that has the constrict special attack as a racial ability'Umm...no. You don't qualify, twice. First, you aren't a naga, serpentfolk or creature with the constrict constrict special attack as a racial ability. You've got constrict from a piece of gear, not your race. Even if this was from a demongraft or from a synthesis summoner's eildion it wouldn't work because it isn't racial.
The second way it doesn't work is the constrict attack doesn't use your stats or feats!
The construct limb retains any melee attacks that the construct has, and the creator can use special attacks as if she were the construct (using the construct’s attack statistics and effects),Even if you have final embrace, your constrict attack from the arm is treated like it came from the Guardian Scroll.
if i use it as 'if im the construct' and it have it as a racial ability doesn't it make me also count as if i have it as racial ability?
'your constrict attack from the arm is treated like it came from the Guardian Scroll'
the special attacks i use (the construct can also use it's attacks but i am the one using it's special attacks. again as if i was it.)
Cost 500 gp per HD plus cost of painting (here 500 gp) = 1,000 gp
I made an error.
it's 3,000 gp (HD).
how does the words 'and the creator can use special attacks as if she were the construct" turn into 'the construct making the attacks'?
doesn't this mean the creator is the one using the special attacks and he is treated as the construct. why do you keep saying the construct is the one doing the special attacks? (the construct is only mention doing it's attacks not it's special attacks)
both are attacking. the construct doing it's attack and the creator doing the special attacks. how do you see it as the construct doing the special attacks instead?!?
so a construct limb mod need to be a mod of a tiny or small construct.
Trompe l'oeil can be made of any 'corporeal creature that has an Intelligence score' which a Guardian Scroll is (int of 4 or 6 if upgraded to the magic Guardian Scroll, that is at the very bottom of the page).
Your link to the Guardian Scroll has no option for Int 6. Where do you get this upgrade?
/cevah