Invested Regent Implicit Question

[Quiddity]

Describe the mechanic by which an Invested Regent regains expended investiture points.

[Claxon]

It's not explicitly mentioned, though I would assume the same way a regular monk regains ki, since it's sort of an analog to it.

However, things that help you regain ki probably do not work to help regain investiture points.

[blahpers]

They don't. Ever.

/editing is for chumps

[Quiddity]

Because this is an explicit writing failure, as opposed to the more typical ambiguity seen in PF/3x materials, the most reasonable recourse is to assign investiture to work in a manner identical to ki, save that ki cannot be expended on investiture costs. This is obviously a houserule as even supposition of the designer's intent is impossible, but as the archetype is unplayable as written, an outcome that enhances player agency and minimizes DM review seems prudent.

[DwarfMan Esq.]

Am I alone in thinking invested regents are just Awful? Monks already need to balance Wisdom, Strength and Dex to be effective and now Charisma as well? The only situation I could ever see playing this archtype is when rolling for stats and even then only rolling extremely well.

[SheepishEidolon]

DwarfMan Esq. wrote:

Am I alone in thinking invested regents are just Awful? Monks already need to balance Wisdom, Strength and Dex to be effective and now Charisma as well? The only situation I could ever see playing this archtype is when rolling for stats and even then only rolling extremely well.

Well, you can get some decent powers in return. Divine Favor scales up to +3 AB and +3 damage, Shield of Faith up to +5 deflection AC (so you don't have to rely on a ring of protection). Such things are worth a small hit in one or two other stats, IMO.

Cha 12 is good enough for 2 points at level 2, meaning you can use such a SLA 1/day and still profit from the small save bonus. Or use the SLA twice, opting out of the save bonus. Later you can pick up a headband of mental prowess (for both Wis and Cha), and the points per day scale with level anyway. The Extra Investiture Points feat also is an option for invested regents with limited Charisma.

Finally: If you want to rely on few ability scores with an unarmed combatant, there is the brawler class that has no Wisdom based class features at all.

[Belafon]

DwarfMan Esq. wrote:

Am I alone in thinking invested regents are just Awful? Monks already need to balance Wisdom, Strength and Dex to be effective and now Charisma as well? The only situation I could ever see playing this archtype is when rolling for stats and even then only rolling extremely well.

It's from Heroes of the High Court. Which is a socially focused book.

Definitely not a great archetype (or book) for a dungeoneer, soldier, or gladiator. But it could work for someone who wants to play a monk in a campaign that spends a good deal of time on the PCs being in charge of a kingdom. Assuming, of course, that you rule the investiture pool refreshes like ki.

And what Sheepish Eidolon said. You don't actually need to focus on charima, you just probably don't want to dump it.

Having said that, I don't know anyone who has actually chosen to play an invested regent.