I feel confusing about Dual Identity, the class ability of Vigilante, and Splinter Identity from Splintersoul, one of archetypes of Vigilante.
1. Can I revere two different deities, one in my society role and another in my vigilante role. Even more, in some case of classes and archetypes related with deity.
For example, I'm an 1-level vigilante and 1-level cleric. Can I be a cleric follows the faith of Sarenrae who can use the power from Fire and Glory Domain with my NG alignment in my social role, and turn into a cleric follows the faith of Cayden Cailean who can use the power from Chaos and Travel Domain with my CG alignment in my vigilante role.
2. In the case of Splintersoul, if I'm a cleric of Sarenrae with my NG alignment in my social role, and when I changes into my vigilante role with CE alignment, what should happen to me? Can I become an cleric follows a CE deity? Or I should become a ex-cleric?
3. Follow the above question, if I will become an ex-cleric, when I become my social role again, do I need Atonement to regain my class abilities and spells? When I become an ex-cleric in this case, can I choose an archetype for ex-cleric? If I can, how should I choose the archetype? The first time I become an ex-cleric and never change again, or everytime I become into my vigilante role?
Expecting your answer.
Thanks!
Unless I missed something the two identities can still only be 1 step away across each axis. So, if one identity were chaotic good, the other identity couldn’t be lawful or evil.
A splintersoul with paladin levels must follow the paladin’s normal code of conduct while in a lawful-good identity, but while in an identity with a different alignment, the following changes apply to his code: Willingly committing an evil act (for example, casting a spell with the evil descriptor) still causes the vigilante to become an ex-paladin, but otherwise, he can do whatever else he feels is necessary to uphold the causes of law and good. He should strive to act with honor and uphold the tenets of his faith, but failing to do so is not a violation of his code. At the GM’s discretion, other classes or archetypes with similarly strict codes of conduct can also follow a less strict version of a code of conduct while in an identity with an incompatible alignment.
1. Revere, sure--any character can do that. But nothing in splintersoul nor vigilante allows you to change your cleric class features, so you'd still be bound to the same choice limitations as any other cleric--pick a deity/pantheon/faith/philosophy, pick your domains, and so on. You don't get to repick them just because you switched identities.
2. Not an option. You can only change one step on each axis. Other than that, your cleric-ability-granting deity is part of your cleric class features, so still no. You could revere another deity in your vigilante role, but you wouldn't actually be a cleric of said deity, and if revering said deity was enough of a violation of your clerical code of conduct (GM discretion), you might lose your cleric abilities until you atone.
3. Yes, or something similar. Basically, you'd need to do the same as any other cleric who violated their code of conduct grossly enough to become an ex-cleric. I don't know of any ex-cleric archetypes, but if they exist and work similarly to ex-paladin archetypes, you'd have the option to pick one when you "fell", same as any other "fallen" cleric, and you'd be stuck with it unless and until you retrained into something else.
Bottom line: Your cleric abilities are tied to your cleric class, and the only ways that splintersoul allows you to deviate from the usual restrictions of the cleric class are described in the splintersoul description--namely that you might (again, at GM discretion) be allowed to keep your cleric abilities after violating your cleric code of conduct in ways that a non-splintersoul could not get away with.
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I have a vigilante character (not a splinter-soul) who is also an inquisitor. She lies, with absolute consistency, about her deity while in her social role, and chose a fake deity to follow with a compatible domain so as to not give away the game the first time she used a domain power. I describe the 'golden charm bracelet' she wears that includes multiple fake and real holy symbols, and I have consistently rolled Bluff anytime any NPC of consequence asks about her religion or deity. Both of my alignments are within one step of my true deity, and I can access my inquisitor abilities in both identities.
Make sure you pick a deity who would be sympathetic even if you went beyond the bounds of what might normally be accepted behavior. Sarenrae and Cayden are both solid picks; redemption with a side cult of fiery, bloody direct action and a chaotic deity who might think you're pretty damn funny. Any deity whose portfolio includes trickery would also appreciate it, and you.
As a Splintersoul, I imagine in your vigilante identity you'd count as an ex-cleric, with no need for an atonement unless you do something that your deity truly could not abide. As people have mentioned, you could be either NE or CN in your vigilante identity, not CE, since that is too many steps away on the alignment chart.
Talk to your GM about this ahead of time and work out the details.
The following sentence from the Vigilante class description in Ultimate Intrigue should help inform the issue in this thread:
"For the purpose of meeting a qualification for a feat, class, or any ability, he is only eligible if both of his alignments meet the requirements."
One exception to the above rule would be the Zealot archetype, which has the following:
"Alignment: A zealot's alignment must be within one step of his deity's, along either the law/chaos axis or the good/evil axis, but only when in his vigilante identity. If his social identity's alignment isn't within one step of his deity's, he can't cast spells in his social identity."