| Turlin |
I'm working on a character, a Gnome by the name of Von Dazzle, who is supposed to be very Flashy and showboaty, but I sat down to make him and I got stuck before I even began. I want him to be a magic user who has the most useless ( but flashy ) spells. Should I go with a fey bloodline sorcerer, Illusionist Wizard, alchemist, or just fall back on the trusty old bard? Or is there a even better option? I guess the point is, how do I make the most useless annoying spell caster ever?
| Temperans |
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Illusionist wizard or Bard that works only with glamours and sparkle/dazzle/light magic sounds like what you want.
Bard has the benefit of getting more useful flashy (non damaging) spell, in my opinion.
* P.S. The spear dancer feat (dazzle 1rd to anyone you hit), with the chosen weapon made of sun steel because shiny. And, mock bejeweled armor or glamered magic armor, plus lots of Ioun Stones and magic items will probably finish selling the look.
| avr |
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Useless but flashy - what do you mean by that? I mean, if you put zero effort into save DCs like a wizard with 12 Int pretty much any spell with a save can be useless. A lot of spells are flashy, but dazzling blade, color spray and a variety of other illusions (& glitterdust) might stand out. If you have other meanings for either useless or flashy it might be good to mention them now.
| Turlin |
Useless but flashy - what do you mean by that? I mean, if you put zero effort into save DCs like a wizard with 12 Int pretty much any spell with a save can be useless. A lot of spells are flashy, but dazzling blade, color spray and a variety of other illusions (& glitterdust) might stand out. If you have other meanings for either useless or flashy it might be good to mention them now.
I guess when I say useless I mean non damaging spells, and traits, items and, well, anything that are pretty much there to look shiny, flashy, and showoffy.
| avr |
avr wrote:Useless but flashy - what do you mean by that? I mean, if you put zero effort into save DCs like a wizard with 12 Int pretty much any spell with a save can be useless. A lot of spells are flashy, but dazzling blade, color spray and a variety of other illusions (& glitterdust) might stand out. If you have other meanings for either useless or flashy it might be good to mention them now.I guess when I say useless I mean non damaging spells, and traits, items and, well, anything that are pretty much there to look shiny, flashy, and showoffy.
Some of those are pretty effective, like color spray and glitterdust. For a wizard or bard doing damage themselves rather than assisting their team via buffs/debuffs/battlefield control is...not playing to their strengths.
Other non-damaging but spectacular spells. Dazzling blade and its mass version aren't bad and are spectacular. Burning disarm might fit. With a little setup pyrotechnics is good and is of course showy. Golden guise makes enemy equipment ineffective; grease (& greater) is less showy but does a similar job. Mirror image (& higher level versions) is both an effective defence and well suited to those who don't want to vanish from sight.
| Temperans |
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Deflect blame, while not "flashy" is the epitome of what an annoying character would do.
Pacing fancy might make everyone obsessed with you or your light shows, and have them talk to people about it.
Flickering lights, Motes of dusk and dwan, and Spotlight, are all light shows.
Path of glory, you can make a golden walkway for yourself.
Pied Piping, you now have a bunch of "fans" that follow you around.
| Turlin |
Turlin wrote:avr wrote:Useless but flashy - what do you mean by that? I mean, if you put zero effort into save DCs like a wizard with 12 Int pretty much any spell with a save can be useless. A lot of spells are flashy, but dazzling blade, color spray and a variety of other illusions (& glitterdust) might stand out. If you have other meanings for either useless or flashy it might be good to mention them now.I guess when I say useless I mean non damaging spells, and traits, items and, well, anything that are pretty much there to look shiny, flashy, and showoffy.Some of those are pretty effective, like color spray and glitterdust. For a wizard or bard doing damage themselves rather than assisting their team via buffs/debuffs/battlefield control is...not playing to their strengths.
Other non-damaging but spectacular spells. Dazzling blade and its mass version aren't bad and are spectacular. Burning disarm might fit. With a little setup pyrotechnics is good and is of course showy. Golden guise makes enemy equipment ineffective; grease (& greater) is less showy but does a similar job. Mirror image (& higher level versions) is both an effective defence and well suited to those who don't want to vanish from sight.
He's not supposed to play to his strengths. He's a support who wants to be the center of attention, and to deal the final blow, looking dazzling the entire time. As you may have guessed, he gonna be an NPC, I think as a PC he would lose the charm and just become flat out unbearable.
| Turlin |
Deflect blame, while not "flashy" is the epitome of what an annoying character would do.
Pacing fancy might make everyone obsessed with you or your light shows, and have them talk to people about it.
Flickering lights, Motes of dusk and dwan, and Spotlight, are all light shows.
Path of glory, you can make a golden walkway for yourself.
Pied Piping, you now have a bunch of "fans" that follow you around.
Aw yea!
| avr |
Ah, I'd thought you'd defined non-damaging spells as what you meant by 'useless'. If you're after actually poor choices then consider illusions in the silent image line (minor, major etc.) coupled with the shadow gambit feat. The attack and effect can look like anything at all; dragon breath, the earth opening up and swallowing the target, an angel or demon smiting the target. It takes a couple of standard actions to do 1d6 per spell level damage.