| Gaulin |
My questions are about shifter (More precisely adaptive shifter). The first being the way adaptive claws work in forms. In the original shifter ability you can use claws in your major form, but since adaptive shifter has no major form and most of the ability simply says works as wild claws, do adaptive claws only work in regular race form?
The second is in the same vein; can reactive aspects forms be used in wild shape form, and do ones currently affecting the caster continue to function once wild shaped?
If anyone can answer, and possibly provide where they learned said answer from, I'd be very grateful. Thank you
| avr |
Shifter claws give you claws in your natural form or apply to up to 2 natural attacks of your major form when you're wild shaped into it. Adaptive claws gives you the same claws in your natural form and says nothing more, but in place of wild shaping into a major form you get wild shaping nearly as good as a druid's. You might make an argument that it's an oversight but nothing says you get shifter claws with unfettered wild shape.
On the other hand there's nothing restricting you from using reactive aspect/form when wild shaped. It's not listed as a polymorph effect, and it replaces minor aspects which can also be used when wild shaped.
| Gaulin |
Shifter claws give you claws in your natural form or apply to up to 2 natural attacks of your major form when you're wild shaped into it. Adaptive claws gives you the same claws in your natural form and says nothing more, but in place of wild shaping into a major form you get wild shaping nearly as good as a druid's. You might make an argument that it's an oversight but nothing says you get shifter claws with unfettered wild shape.
On the other hand there's nothing restricting you from using reactive aspect/form when wild shaped. It's not listed as a polymorph effect, and it replaces minor aspects which can also be used when wild shaped.
Pretty much my thinking on both questions. Was hoping there was an errata or post I missed clearing up that first point. Though I'm not sure I get what you mean by adaptive shifter wild shaping being better than regular shifter? Seems to me it's strictly worse, having less uses.
Note that unfettered wild shape replaces wild shape, and is specifically not wild shape. This means you cannot take any of the wild shape feats.
Are you sure? It says it functions as a druids wild shape.
| willuwontu |
willuwontu wrote:Note that unfettered wild shape replaces wild shape, and is specifically not wild shape. This means you cannot take any of the wild shape feats.Are you sure? It says it functions as a druids wild shape.
Hmm, it may work then, note though that you don't count as a fruid of your level as that is part of shifter's wild shape and is replaced.
| avr |
Gaulin wrote:Hmm, it may work then, note though that you don't count as a fruid of your level as that is part of shifter's wild shape and is replaced.willuwontu wrote:Note that unfettered wild shape replaces wild shape, and is specifically not wild shape. This means you cannot take any of the wild shape feats.Are you sure? It says it functions as a druids wild shape.
You probably do, actually. For a class feature gained by an archetype your level for that class feature is your class level. If it says it functions as a druid's wild shape then you have a level for a druid's wild shape equal to your class level. That's very close to having a druid level for that class feature.
| Gaulin |
A base shifter with major form (bull) can wild shape into a bull. An adaptive shifter can wild shape into a bull, or anything else which meets the size/type limits of their wild shape. One of these is better than the other.
Ah I'd misread. For whatever reason I missed the part where you can only wild shape into your major aspect. My bad.