| BlingerBunny |
So as I'm reading this feat, I'm pretty impressed by what it lets you do. So my question is; Does this feat allow you to grab greater maneuver feats, without having to get the improved versions? The highlighted section is what I'm scrutinizing.
Dirty Fighting;
Benefit(s): When you attempt a combat maneuver check against a foe you are flanking, you can forgo the +2 bonus on your attack roll for flanking to instead have the combat maneuver not provoke an attack of opportunity. If you have a feat or ability that allows you to attempt the combat maneuver without provoking an attack of opportunity, you can instead increase the bonus on your attack roll for flanking to +4 for the combat maneuver check.
Special: This feat counts as having Dex 13, Int 13, Combat Expertise, and Improved Unarmed Strike for the purposes of meeting the prerequisites of the various improved combat maneuver feats, as well as feats that require those improved combat maneuver feats as prerequisites.
Syries
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Yup. Any feat that lists an improved (x maneuver) can be picked up using dirty fighting in place of those requirements. You still need to meet any other requirements for the feat, like BAB and the actual improved maneuver feat.
Keep on mind that despite it having the same wording, feint is not a combat maneuver so dirty fighting does not help with improved feint or any other feat that requires that.
Edit: realized I misread your question. Yeah, you still need improved x to qualify for other feats in the chain. But you can have improved x and then qualify for a style feat that lists improved x as a pq thanks to dirty fighting. The number of feats Dirty Fighting opens up is great.
| BlingerBunny |
Thanks for the info. The wording was a little unclear for me. I have a monk build in my head for a proper Drunken Master, using the Brazen Disciple archetype. The goal is to feint and use trip, or dirty trick maneuvers.
Note; Drunken Masters don't actually need to drink, they're just really good at making their opponents think they're drunk.
| Ryze Kuja |
That part that you bolded in the OP only applies to prerequisite requirements for the Greater Combat Maneuvers or anything that requires Combat Expertise or Imp Unarmed Strike or 13+ dex/int-- Dirty Fighting satisfies the requirement for all other feats beyond the Improved Maneuvers too. So instead of getting Combat Expertise, you can get Dirty Fighting in lieu of that, then get the Improved/Greater <Combat Maneuver>.
They put that part in there because Greater maneuvers sometimes list 13 Int and Combat Expertise, or whatever, as a prerequisite.