Hypothetically Legal Alchemist Trick?


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Ok, so sometime or another I worked on my alchemist and he took the following:

Accelerated Drinker Feat: "You may drink a potion as a move action instead of a standard action as long as you start your turn with the potion in your hand."

Explosive Missile Discovery: As a standard action, the alchemist can infuse a single arrow, crossbow bolt, or one-handed firearm bullet with the power of his bomb, load the ammunition, and shoot the ranged weapon. He must be proficient with the weapon in order to accomplish this. When the infused ammunition hits its target, it deals damage normally and detonates as if the alchemist had thrown the bomb at the target. If the explosive missile misses, it does not detonate.

Now, obviously, we're at 20+ int (24 with mindchemist). We also apply a Targeted Bomb Admixture to each bomb we make (duration 4+ rounds, since we have to have a 4th to do the explosive missile).

Adventurer's Sash, spring loaded sheath or whatever you can do to get the next potion in you hand as a free action in the same round... can you...

So the hypothetical question is: Drink the potion (elixir) of True Strike as a move action, then make the bomb, strap it on a bolt, load and fire the Heavy Crossbow (at a +20 now)... and repeat this each round for which you have a True Strike elixir prepped?

Compared to reloading a heavy crossbow? What, once a round, as a full round action?

So that would be a +20 to hit, 2d6+10-14 damage, on top of the bolt damage. And more on crits? Not bad for a 4th level murder hobo, eh?

Silver Crusade

At 50 gp a shot, in both senses of the word, it isn't that good a plan. Besides, you have to start with it in hand. You're running out of actions and/or feats to manage it


maouse33 wrote:
Drink the potion (elixir) of True Strike as a move action

Has the "Does Accelerated Drinker feat work for Alchemist's elexirs" question gotten an official answer yet? Last time I checked, that was still an ongoing argument.

Silver Crusade

This is a different argument in respects, because it's not about the extracts, it's about general potions.


Val'bryn2 wrote:
This is a different argument in respects, because it's not about the extracts, it's about general potions.

Except True Strike is a Range: Personal spell, which can't be made into a potion. So it has to be an Extract.


Rajnish Umbra, Shadow Caller wrote:
Except True Strike is a Range: Personal spell, which can't be made into a potion. So it has to be an Extract.

Except it also has a Focus requirement, so it can't be an Extract either. Maybe an Infused Poison?


Then why is True Strike on the alchemist extract list?


Valandil Ancalime wrote:
Then why is True Strike on the alchemist extract list?

Probably so they can use wands of True Strike. Or because Paizo doesn't proof-read: there's even a FAQ mentioning True Strike infusions.

Scarab Sages

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Given the faq on the true strike infusion, you should be able to make an extract of it just fine.

Relevant text from alchemist: "Although the alchemist doesn’t actually cast spells, he does have a formulae list that determines what extracts he can create."

This section suggests you ignore the focus requirement. "Extracts cannot be made from spells that have focus requirements (alchemist extracts that duplicate divine spells never have a divine focus requirement)."

Relevant text from the faq: "Can I use the infusion discovery to create an infused extract of a personal-range formula (such as true strike), which someone else can drink?
Yes, you can. The design team may decide to close this loophole in the next printing of the Advanced Player's Guide."

Also, accelerated drinker cannot be used to drink an extract.

Relevant text: "Alchemist: Does the Accelerated Drinker feat from Cheliax, Empire of Devils allow a character to drink an alchemist extract as a move action?
No."

http://paizo.com/paizo/faq/v5748nruor1fn#v5748eaic9qv1

In short, the combo doesn't work as desired because you cannot drink an extract of true strike as a move action, and there are no potions of true strike.


That's not a big nova strike with explosive missile. Explosive missile+conductive+grenadier's alchemical weapon+hybridization funnel is a big nova strike.

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