It goes live two weeks after UC is released.
Here is a link to the collaborator's page so if you don't have the book yet like me you can still see a lot of what's in it. I love the SRD and how Piazo encourages digital distribution of information.
EDIT Removed because delays suck.
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Here is a link to the collaborator's page so if you don't have the book yet like me you can still see a lot of what's in it. I love the SRD and how Piazo encourages digital distribution of information.
Please do not link to pages in the work queues or work area or our delay in posting the content will be significantly increased, as in, by WEEKS.
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Due to links being posted on various sites to our work area we have been forced to move the Ultimate Combat content off-site. This adds an extra couple of steps to our process. The normal post delay of "street +2 weeks" will likely be longer than that now. We have no specific idea how much longer it will be but at a minimum I am expecting 1-2 weeks.
We had been told previously by Google that a new feature was coming very soon that would allow us to lock down specific sections of the site so that our work areas would not be publicly viewable. Unfortunately that feature has not appeared yet. We had hoped people wouldn't link to the content after we asked them not to last time.
Anyway, just letting folks know that we're working on Ultimate Combat now, but at the same time we just received Tome of Horrors Complete, direct from Frog God Games, and we're working on that too.
By the way, we strongly recommend both Tome of Horrors Complete, and ANYTHING else you can get from Frog God Games. They're an "above and beyond" group who 100% supports the open gaming movement and deserve your business greatly. Chuck and the crew went beyond all call of duty to personally send us a PDF formatted best for our processes to accelerate the work we have to do. That is not necessary, but appreciated greatly.
Thanks to Chuck and everyone else at FGG!
This is why we can't have nice things. >.>
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I'm also going to repost what I posted on the Giant in the Playground forum a few minutes ago:
Hey Guys,This is John Reyst, the main dude behind d20pfsrd.com and the one responsible for the big bold text on the Ultimate Combat pages.
I want to make something clear. We have an unofficial agreement with Paizo and various 3rd Party Publishers to NOT make their content publicly available for a minimum of 2 weeks AFTER the book has been available "on the street" meaning, in stores. We had this same issue with Bestiary 2 also. We post the extracted content from PDF's into a temporary working area while the team cleans it up and links it etc. We don't intend content in the work areas to be for "public" consumption since a) its ugly and b) its usually there before the "street +2 week" delay period. We had been told by Google (who hosts the site) that a new feature was imminent, one that would allow us to add different security settings to different sections of the site, thereby allowing us to keep to our agreements. Ultimately we want to minimize any possible loss of sales a publisher may see as a result of their being so open to the Open Gaming ideas.
So its not us, or most certainly not Paizo, trying to be mean, or cruel, or whatever, its just us, as in d20pfsrd.com, trying to adhere to our agreements to respect the publishers wishes. We'll try to get the content up as fast as possible but having public messageboards posting links to the content defeats our agreement so we have to move the content, which makes our job harder and will take us longer to do since we now have to jump through additional hurdles etc.
Sorry, but that's the way it is for now until Google gets this feature released.
--john
This is why we can't have nice things. >.>I'm hoping that's sarcasm?
I expect it's meant as a "because people don't listen, UC being in d20PFSRD is delayed"
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Due to links being posted on various sites to our work area we have been forced to move the Ultimate Combat content off-site.
And this is exactly why I told before not to post this link on the forums. It's not because you know that the rules are here, that it is a good idea to share the link ; first because you are straight f*&+ing with the site's reputation and Paizo's business by pointing to something they would have not publicly put before weeks, and second, because you take the risk that the shiny thing you wanted to trade will not even be available to you anymore.
And it happened, even if I understand and encourage John's decision. Nice played. >_>
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I really like the functionality of d20pfsrd, but I'm wondering if it's worth the effort to format Ultimate Combat. Ultimate Magic was included in the PRD pretty quickly and since Jade Regent 1 uses material from UC, I wouldn't be surprised if it got included even sooner this time.
So, while I appreciate your wish to get the material ready as quickly as possible (on the 18th, I guess), it might be better to spend that energy on material that is less likely to attract unwanted visitors to your work area.
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I really like the functionality of d20pfsrd, but I'm wondering if it's worth the effort to format Ultimate Combat. Ultimate Magic was included in the PRD pretty quickly and since Jade Regent 1 uses material from UC, I wouldn't be surprised if it got included even sooner this time.
So, while I appreciate your wish to get the material ready as quickly as possible (on the 18th, I guess), it might be better to spend that energy on material that is less likely to attract unwanted visitors to your work area.
I appreciate your position and thoughts but I think that we add more value than simply "being there." Meaning, many users find our presentation of the rules more to their liking than the official presentation. Also, in the past we've almost always been live before the PRD was updated. We've got this, Tome of Horrors Complete, Dreamscarred Presses latest Psionics Expanded, and about a half dozen other Paizo books on our plate right now. Its extremely busy right now, not to mention one of the biggest contributors (Beastmaster #1 Brett Carlos) and myself are going to be in GenCon for the next several days...
Sigh. Oh and by the way, Frog God Games AND Dreamscarred Press sent us their latest books, unrequested, asking us to put it live. Some publishers out there REALLY deserve your gaming dollars.
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I appreciate your position and thoughts but I think that we add more value than simply "being there." Meaning, many users find our presentation of the rules more to their liking than the official presentation. Also, in the past we've almost always been live before the PRD was updated. We've got this, Tome of Horrors Complete, Dreamscarred Presses latest Psionics Expanded, and about a half dozen other Paizo books on our plate right now. Its extremely busy right now, not to mention one of the biggest contributors (Beastmaster #1 Brett Carlos) and myself are going to be in GenCon for the next several days...
Sigh. Oh and by the way, Frog God Games AND Dreamscarred Press sent us their latest books, unrequested, asking us to put it live. Some publishers out there REALLY deserve your gaming dollars.
Oh, I wasn't implying that you should not include Ultimate Combat. What I was implying is that it's much easier to use the PRD material as a base than copying it from a PDF.
I usually prefer the d20pfrsd, since it's structure is more userfriendly. When I wrote my inquisitor guide, I found your lists of feats and spells most helpful.I'd say your site is on par with the 4E compendium, if not better, so I'm happy to hear that 3PPs are supporting you.
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Oh, I wasn't implying that you should not include Ultimate Combat. What I was implying is that it's much easier to use the PRD material as a base than copying it from a PDF.
I usually prefer the d20pfrsd, since it's structure is more userfriendly. When I wrote my inquisitor guide, I found your lists of feats and spells most helpful.
I'd say your site is on par with the 4E compendium, if not better, so I'm happy to hear that 3PPs are supporting you.
^This.
You do an admirable work, help thousands of players around the world, and I'm sure the number of visits you receive is a good proof of it, so it's not surprising you receive official and third-party support.
Oh, I wasn't implying that you should not include Ultimate Combat. What I was implying is that it's much easier to use the PRD material as a base than copying it from a PDF.
I usually prefer the d20pfrsd, since it's structure is more userfriendly. When I wrote my inquisitor guide, I found your lists of feats and spells most helpful.
I'd say your site is on par with the 4E compendium, if not better, so I'm happy to hear that 3PPs are supporting you.^This.
You do an admirable work, help thousands of players around the world, and I'm sure the number of visits you receive is a good proof of it, so it's not surprising you receive official and third-party support.
+1
Tip of the hat and all that. If I had a cookie right now, you could have it.
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Oh, I wasn't implying that you should not include Ultimate Combat. What I was implying is that it's much easier to use the PRD material as a base than copying it from a PDF.
Actually with our scripts is actually easier to go from a PDF than the PRD since we don't have to strip out links and the PRD styles.
Re: Everything else... Thanks :)
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By the way, we strongly recommend both Tome of Horrors Complete, and ANYTHING else you can get from Frog God Games. They're an "above and beyond" group who 100% supports the open gaming movement and deserve your business greatly. Chuck and the crew went beyond all call of duty to personally send us a PDF formatted best for our processes to accelerate the work we have to do. That is not necessary, but appreciated greatly.
Thanks to Chuck and everyone else at FGG!
Make sure to check out the legal section at the back. Because of the original argeement with Necro and Wizards regarding many of the monsters from the original Tome, there is a unique section 15 requirement.
But, to help everyone out, I did a section in the book at the back with the legal material that explains exactly how to reuse the content from Tome of Horrors Complete.
We at Necro (and now through FGG) are HUGE supporters of open gaming.
Keep up the good work.
Also: I'm sorry. I'm one of those leaching of your work area for content.
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While it's disappointing folks couldn't wait until Christmas before peaking at the UC presents I completely support the decision. Folks are getting the rules from Paizo and top tier 3rd party publishers for free!
So while I'm a little sad I have to wait a little longer for Ultimate Combat's rules content to go up, I appreciate the work that has gone into this site. Without which I would have lost hours and days in gaming prep time or character generation. So I'll just wait patiently because in the meantime I've got games to run :-D
I would like to say I'm sorry for posting the link here, I did take it down as soon as I saw your post. PFSRD is an amazing resource and I always use it to help me run my games, especially the older 3.5 adventure paths the conversion stats for the npc's helps a ton.
By the way, we strongly recommend both Tome of Horrors Complete, and ANYTHING else you can get from Frog God Games. They're an "above and beyond" group who 100% supports the open gaming movement and deserve your business greatly. Chuck and the crew went beyond all call of duty to personally send us a PDF formatted best for our processes to accelerate the work we have to do. That is not necessary, but appreciated greatly.
Thanks to Chuck and everyone else at FGG!
Make sure to check out the legal section at the back. Because of the original argeement with Necro and Wizards regarding many of the monsters from the original Tome, there is a unique section 15 requirement.
But, to help everyone out, I did a section in the book at the back with the legal material that explains exactly how to reuse the content from Tome of Horrors Complete.
We at Necro (and now through FGG) are HUGE supporters of open gaming.
I point it out to them every chance I get, Clark. That was actually the first thing they started discussing when the book was released... seeing that Legal Appendix.
d20pfsrd.com:
what do you think about making a guide section, instead of labs?
It would be nice just to see each guide for each class that has been published then searching threw all the labs trying to find one on summoners or Inquesters or paladans.
Labs are essentially free web space hosting for people who work on the site. I think that a few things from labs have actually been moved to the site proper in the past.
Thanks Chuck for answering some of the questions. Given your history as a collaborator on the site you are very qualified to answer them. Wish I was gonna see you at Gencon bud!