Wisdom-based combat feats for non-monks?

[Driftborne of Almas]

There are a lot of feats that allow you to substitute one ability score's modifier for another one. Weapon Finesse to use Dex instead of Str is probably the most common but there are lots of others.

There don't seem to be very many ones that allow the use of Wis instead of other scores, though, except for the ones specific to the Monk class. The only one I've found is Guided Hand.

There are other Wisdom-based classes, e.g., Clerics and Inquisitors, that could benefit from such feats. Is there no interest in this type of feat or is there some other issue that prevents such feats? Or (a strong possibility) maybe I'm just missing something?

Thanks.

[avr]

There's one more - guided star. Someone at Paizo really likes starknives. Divine fighting technique has at least one deity option (Torag) which focuses on Wis.

I'm sure people would use such feats if they existed but you'd have to ask the developers why they didn't make more of them.

[Thunderlord]

Erastil's Blessing uses wis to attack for bows.

[Kristal Moonhand]

It's James Jacobs. Starknives are his baby.

[LordKailas]

I don't know about feats. But I was able to use a slew of traits and a few class abilities to make all skills use wisdom. Some of those traits/abilites aren't limited to just skills. So, in some cases at least, you should be able to have feats that convert from one stat to another stat which can it's self then be converted to wisdom.

[Mark Hoover 330]

You're specifically looking for Combat feats. Under General I found Scrutinize Spell that lets you add Wis to Spellcraft checks if you ID an enemy's casting class, then you can also make Intimidate checks to Demoralize and add Wis to that roll in place of Cha if desired.

Versatile Jinxer lets you sub Wis for Cha on Halfling Jinxs.

There are several Style feats that let you either add or sub your Wis modifier for something, but I suspect these are the ones you're saying are "Monk" feats. They aren't; you can take other classes and just meet the pre-reqs, but they are most advantageous to a Monk of the appropriate level.

There's Intimidate Animal, which is a Combat feat requiring Greater Wild Empathy and Wild Empathy, so definitely non-monk. Its a very specific feat however. If you're using Intimidate on an Animal type creature you add your Wis modifier along with other mod's to the check and if the creature is 4 HD or less and you're attempting to Demoralize the animal it is considered Frightened rather than Shaken. This is the "Wolverine grits his teeth and glares at the dogs, who run away in the next panel of the comic book" feat.

I'm sure there's more scattered around the various feat types. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful.

[Driftborne of Almas]

Thunderlord wrote:

Erastil's Blessing uses wis to attack for bows.

Thanks for the link. The character I have now is an Iomedean Inquisitor, so the feat isn't applicable. It definitely is what I was looking for and it's something to keep in mind for another character.

Thanks again.

[Driftborne of Almas]

Mark Hoover 330 wrote:

You're specifically looking for Combat feats. Under General I found Scrutinize Spell that lets you add Wis to Spellcraft checks if you ID an enemy's casting class, then you can also make Intimidate checks to Demoralize and add Wis to that roll in place of Cha if desired.

Thanks. I'll look into that.

Mark Hoover 330 wrote:

There are several Style feats that let you either add or sub your Wis modifier for something, but I suspect these are the ones you're saying are "Monk" feats. They aren't; you can take other classes and just meet the pre-reqs, but they are most advantageous to a Monk of the appropriate level.

From what I can tell, they all build off of Improved Unarmed Strike, which I tend to think of as a Monk thing. Brawlers too, of course.

Thanks again.

[Kristal Moonhand]

There are several Styles that don't need IUS, such as Swordplay Style and Mobile Bulwark Style. Unless you were speaking specifically about Styles that use Wis for stuff.

Also, check out the Evangelist Boon for Erastil. It's Wis to both attack and damage~