Hello Paizonians, it is I the necromancer here. Except this time not necro'ing a thread, rather the opposite. I come here seeking advice from you brilliant minds. Would preparing Disrupt Silence be worth a slot? How common is this spell in AP's? I have seen Silence in RoTRL once and it was very powerful as we were not expecting it, but so situational I'm not sure if preping Disrupt Silence is worth it. Enlighten me with your wisdom Paizonians.
Note: The party consists of 3 full casters and a Barbarian. So it is pretty reliant on spell casting.
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I would think that a rod of blanking-on-the-name metamagic (the one that lets you cast without needing verbal components) would be more useful. Doesn't take up a spell slot and you have it for when you need it.
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Scroll it. That way you can solve the problem for all three casters without burning a slot.
Scroll it. That way you can solve the problem for all three casters without burning a slot.
Problem with a scroll is that you can't use it if you are in a silence effect. You can get a riffle scroll but then it will be more expensive.
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WOAH WOAH WOAH. PARTY HAVE BARBARIAN. AM ASKING FOR BEST COUNTER FOR ONGOING SPELL?
BEST COUNTER AM PARTY BARBARIAN. SPELL SUNDER SILENCE, NOVA SPELLS LIKE GOOD TEAM. THIS AM WHY CASTYS AM USELESS WITHOUT GOOD BARBARIAN. ALWAYS PREPPING WEIRD JUST IN CASE SPELLS FOR EMERGENCY, WHEN IN REAL EMERGENCY, ALL BARBARIAN DO AM BREAK GLASS, WHERE GLASS AM METAPHOR FOR WHATEVER AM NEEDING SMASH AT THAT MOMENT IN TIME.
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Discuss with your GM how common use of Silence will be. I know that as GM I rarely use it because I consider it too effective and un-fun. If is not going to be limited make sure you have a counter anytime you are going near a cleric.
My Alternative house rule allows a will save against the spell even if you are just in the AOE so that there is some chance of avoiding the spell
Why not? Disrupt Silence has no verbal component. It's only SM.Scroll it. That way you can solve the problem for all three casters without burning a slot.Problem with a scroll is that you can't use it if you are in a silence effect. You can get a riffle scroll but then it will be more expensive.
This. The only reason you have to speak at all when reading a scroll with verbal components is by omission--namely that activating a explicitly does not require material or focus components, ergo one infers that verbal and somatic components are still required. If the spell doesn't have a verbal component, though, you're good to go--just read the scroll and gesture appropriately.
Or have all three casters get silent metamagic rods of appropriate level, but that seems extreme unless you're expecting a lot of silence effects or you expect your verbal components to be negated in a manner not covered by disrupt silence.
I think the scroll is the best alternative here. Since Silence is a seldomly used spell.
In general, a scroll is great for any spell you rarely need . . . but when you do, you really, really need it.
A wand (or even staff, if you're flush and/or the spell is higher level) is good for a spell you might or might not need, but when you do, you want to spam the crap out of it.
I'm assuming at least one of the spell casters has a bonded item.
I usually save that item for those situational spells that are needed but rarely come up.
Indeed, our wizard has a bonded item. The Shaman and Cleric do not have such an ability unfortunately. However only the Cleric can cast Disrupt Silence (or read a scroll of it without UMD).