Shackle spell


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When the target fails its reflex save, what happens to the enemy? Is it like when you tie up an enemy and they gain the 'helpless' condition? What actions can they do besides try to escape or break free?


If the shackle is on their hands, probably the grapple condition would work except they wouldn’t be able use their hands at all. On their feet reduce their movement to 5’. I don’t think they’d be helpless either way


The spell conjures manacles, the item, on the target. The full rules for manacles are in Path of the Hellknight, page 15. You can also find them on Archives of Nethys.


Excellent link, so could I choose the Rear Restraint option if they failed the reflex save?


Castilonium wrote:
The spell conjures manacles, the item, on the target. The full rules for manacles are in Path of the Hellknight, page 15. You can also find them on Archives of Nethys.

Unfortunately there is no mention of concentration checks or if the caster is even able to cast a spell with somatic components? How would this played? Some say grappled condition but i couldnt find anything in the rules on this. Furthermore why would the enemy be prevented from moving (as the grappled condition gives) by having there hands shackled.


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They should indeed have a specific condition for this. Both for this spell, and for mundane uses of manacles, but they don't so something has to be 'made up'.

Two conditions have text that suggest they should be appropriate:

Grappled: restrained by a creature, trap, or effect.

Helpless: A helpless character is paralyzed, held, bound, sleeping, unconscious ....

Neither is very palatable, Grappled for the reason you mentioned, Helpless because while multiple manacles and fetters and restraints could achieve this, simple handcuffs shouldn't.

Personally, I believe grappled without the movement restrictions gives a pretty good answer. Another possibility is the entangled condition which is pretty similar in terms of penalties.

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