Freedom of Movement vs Repel Metal or Stone?


Rules Questions


You are a Fighter wearing full plate and a ring off Freedom of Movement. A high level Druid just cast the 8th level spell "Repel Metal or Stone" as you approached him with your greatsword. As a result, your sword and the armor you are wearing have been pushed backwards until you hit the corner of a room - where you become pinned in the book between the two adjacent walls. While you have been indirectly affected, the spell is not in any way directly affecting you. The spell has no saving throw, and allows no ability/skill check to overcome it on your turn

So, what would happens next?

1) Are you able to suddendly slip out of your armor as it now the thing that is restraining you?

2) Are you simply able to move freely, since both sword and armor are attended items and thereby an extension of you - therefore incapable of hampering your movement in any way despite the Repel Metal spell?

3) Are you stuck until the spell ends (barring a magical item that lets you dimension for out of your spot)- as it has already been established that Freedom of Movement does not let you pass throughc solid walls if you were entombed, therefore you could not move out of the armor, and you cannot avoid the result of the spell, since the effects are not actually directly affecting you? Plus, the corner position is keeping you from backing away further or simply moving laterally.

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I am the GM, in this instance, so telling me to go ask my GM isnt really helpful. I am looking for your individual take on this conundrum, as it will likely come up in a couple of sessions.

Thanks.


If the fighter is your NPC, have him become large and be unaffected by the spell due to weight.

As to the actual question....I don't have a great answer for you.

That druid spell is a bit overpowered since it doesn't allow any saves or resistance against it.


I'd consider the Repel spell to be impeding your movement and thus Freedom of Movement would negate its effects.

So 2.


Claxon wrote:

If the fighter is your NPC, have him become large and be unaffected by the spell due to weight.

As to the actual question....I don't have a great answer for you.

That druid spell is a bit overpowered since it doesn't allow any saves or resistance against it.

no - the NPCs are actually a pair of Earth Yai Oni who can each cast the spell 1/day.

and 50 lb full plate becomes 400 lb full plate when enlarged, so it would still be affected. even if it had been 500+ lbs, full plate is made up of many overlapping, but otherwise disconnected pieces - so would likely still be affected by the spell.


I wasn't being literally with the weights. Sometimes you just make stuff up as a GM. You get to decide what does and doesn't work.

As a GM, against this spell that doesn't allow a save or resistance of any sort, I would say that the enlarged character's armor weighs too much to be affected.


Freedom of Movement has always been difficult to rule.

If it stops you being grappled while you're wearing full plate, then it presumably affects your armor too, so it would be reasonable to say it works in this case.

Shadow Lodge

What's funny is some outlying things, like you can still be entangled and take all the penalties but are free to move around. Freedom of Movement is a weird spell.

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