Multitalented - Alternative Trait

[Laird Triath]

Hey guys!

Apologies if there's another thread addressing this, but I couldn't find anything in my search.

Are there other traits to replace Multitalented (Half-Elf racial trait) aside from the Arcane Training trait (which is useless to Bards, if I understand correctly?)?

I found Blended View, which I was quite fond of for obvious reasons, but apparently in the PFS rules that's a banned trait.

If anyone could advise on other alternatives which I may've missed - or if the Arcane Training IS of use to a bard - that'd be appreciated!

[Moonclanger]

Drow Magic and Water Child (from the ARG) replace both Adaptability and Multitalented.

[SheepishEidolon]

There are numerous options. Archives of Nethys is well-sorted when it comes to alternate racial traits:

Half-elf

The lower half is about alternate racial traits and favored class bonuses. Maybe the "Replaces multitalented" subsection pretty much at the bottom is most interesting for you, but there are also alternate racial traits which you get for replacing multitalented + other things.

[Fuzzy-Wuzzy]

The Archives of Nethys racial info lists all the alternate traits categorized & headlined by what they're replacing, making it ideal for looking for things like this.

I see Kindred-Raised (replaces a ton of things incl Multitalented); drow magic, lesser spell-like abilities, reflexive improvisation, water child (replacing multitalented and adaptability); elf-scorned (replaces multitalented and elven immunities); arcane training, blended view, fey thoughts, flexible half-breed, jungle affinity, multidisciplined (replace multitalented alone).

Whoops, forgot to leave out PFS-illegal options. Well, everything PFS-legal in the Archives is marked as such.

[Laird Triath]

Thanks guys! I appreciate it, and now I have a good site to use for reference.

It seems that, of the PFS-legal options, there aren't many that're any more appealing than Multitalented, however. :(

Oh well - I'll think on it a bit, and see where I want to take things. I've not much interest in multi-classing, except possibly prestige, which isn't applicable to Multitalented iirc!

[Syries]

Arcane talent is still a good one if you're not worried about favored class bonuses. A half elf with arcane talent (wizard) can use wands and scrolls from that spell list, which is nice and diverse. Mage armor, expeditious retreat, infernal healing, glitterdust. Its not a bad trait, but you give up getting favored class bonuses for your actual class.

[Avoron]

And if all else fails, you could just go with arcane talent and pick bard, letting you use bard scrolls a level earlier than you otherwise would have been able to.

[SheepishEidolon]

Syries wrote:

Arcane talent is still a good one if you're not worried about favored class bonuses.

Technically you can regain the FCB (at least the HP / skill rank) via the human feat Eclectic, as a half-elf. That's about the same price level as Toughness and Cunning.

[Laird Triath]

@Syries - that's a good idea, but I think I'd probably prefer the FCB for my own class. Particularly as it allows the option of increasing my bardic performances, too.

That said, it may be worth thinking on, as it's an ability that doesn't require waiting until level up, and can theoretically be used more often.

[KainPen]

why would Arcane Training trait be useless for bards? Bard are Arcane casting class. It come is useful for wands of cure light wounds, since that spell is on it's arcane casting spell list. Also Songhealer is a good archetype to match with that as you can increase wand healing even further, by using full caster level few times per day. Also Magician archetype add more arcane spells to the spell list. Thus making wand selection even wider, then normal bard.

For normal bard this could effect duration of spells from wands or scrolls by 1 level worth, this could be 1 round extra of haste from a wand of scroll, instead of the standard 5rd from those objects. extra round from summon monster wand, can be a big thing.