Giving Bad People Good Powers: How Do I Get Good-Aligned Abilities As An Evil Character?


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It's always kind of terrifying to consider how power might be corrupted. Politicians can be bribed, guards can look the other way, even mercenaries don't care about the blood they might shed as long as they're paid. So what if the very forces of good itself were capable of being usurped by the depraved and unrelenting minions of evil?

Basically, I'm trying to figure out how good aligned abilities and spells can be used by evil characters, not just through emulation via Use Magic Device, but through actually possessing the abilities in question.

So far, I only know about one way to do this; the Worthless Pawn trait allows you to cast spells without alignment restriction, but some drawbacks in the form of wisdom damage and being limited to worshippers of the Great Old Ones.

Is there anything else I could use?

Silver Crusade

Maybe broken soul template


If your evil character isn't a cleric or similar, if they're an arcane caster instead - no problem. They can just cast [good] spells. Razmir's followers have pioneered ways for arcane casters to pretend to be divine too.


avr wrote:
If your evil character isn't a cleric or similar, if they're an arcane caster instead - no problem. They can just cast [good] spells. Razmir's followers have pioneered ways for arcane casters to pretend to be divine too.

I know about the Razmiran Priest archetype for the sorcerer and how nasty they can be. I was thinking about this problem with divine classes in mind, unfortunately. Not to brush off your advice!


Oracles don't have any limit on the spells they can cast by alignment descriptor, except that Good Oracles don't automatically learn Inflict-series spells and Evil Oracles don't automatically learn Cure-series spells. Evil Oracles of Life (or Evil Spirit Guide Oracles with the Life Spirit) can even get Channel Positive Energy (unfortunately, the reverse is not true except for Channel Negative Energy restricted to Command Undead).

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Witches are technically arcane casters, but with the right Patron choice (Healing, or Endurance if you wait a LONG time) can fully substitute for a divine caster, and have no limit on the spells they can cast by alignment descriptor.


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Besides the sorcerer archetype, there's a prestige class named Razmiran Priest and a feat named False Casting. Still for arcane casters tho'.

Inquisitors usually have the alignment descriptor limit - but with the infiltrator archetype they don't.


Aasimar racial Feats don't have Good as a prerequisite, so you can get a bonus to saves against Evil effects and a Celestial template on your familiar (which includes a 1/day Smite Evil), among other things.

Sovereign Court

The mythic path ability where your alignment doesn't matter for anything...forgot the name of it. You can look it up.

Dark Archive

UnArcaneElection wrote:

Oracles don't have any limit on the spells they can cast by alignment descriptor, except that Good Oracles don't automatically learn Inflict-series spells and Evil Oracles don't automatically learn Cure-series spells.

Ehm, nope. Oracles can choose no matter what their alignment is.

"In addition to the spells gained by oracles as they gain levels, each oracle also adds all of either the cure spells or the inflict spells to her list of spells known (cure spells include all spells with “cure” in the name, inflict spells include all spells with “inflict” in the name). These spells are added as soon as the oracle is capable of casting them. This choice is made when the oracle gains her first level and cannot be changed."


^Oops, you're right. Must have recombined it with another class.


There is also the Infiltrator archetype Inquisitor, which gets this power:

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Forbidden Lore (Ex): While other inquisitors learned to track unbelievers, an infiltrator learns how to cast their spells. An infiltrator can cast spells of an alignment opposed to her or her deity (ignoring the restriction in the Chaotic, Evil, Good, and Lawful Spells class ability). This ability replaces track.

I don't know if that would, by RAW supersede the rules against clerics if you dipped one level in Inquisitor then stacked cleric levels, but there's one divine caster at least that can cast Good while being Evil.

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