Somatic component and shields


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I have looked and cannot seem to find an answer, so here goes.
If a bard is using a sword and shield and wearing light armor, can he cast a spell with a somatic component?

Thanks
-Erich


Erich_Jager wrote:

I have looked and cannot seem to find an answer, so here goes.

If a bard is using a sword and shield and wearing light armor, can he cast a spell with a somatic component?

Thanks
-Erich

Only if it is a buckler. Other shields occupy your hand, so you would need to sheathe/drop your sword. If using a light shield, you can transfer the weapon to that hand.

Scarab Sages

Jeraa wrote:
Erich_Jager wrote:

I have looked and cannot seem to find an answer, so here goes.

If a bard is using a sword and shield and wearing light armor, can he cast a spell with a somatic component?

Thanks
-Erich

Only if it is a buckler. Other shields occupy your hand, so you would need to sheathe/drop your sword. If using a light shield, you can transfer the weapon to that hand.

You can hold a weapon in the hand with a light shield. You just can't wield it. So you can free action swap your weapon to your shield hand, standard cast your spell, then free action swap the weapon back.

PRD wrote:
Shield, Light; Wooden or Steel: You strap a shield to your forearm and grip it with your hand. A light shield's weight lets you carry other items in that hand, although you cannot use weapons with it.


Ferious Thune wrote:
Jeraa wrote:
Erich_Jager wrote:

I have looked and cannot seem to find an answer, so here goes.

If a bard is using a sword and shield and wearing light armor, can he cast a spell with a somatic component?

Thanks
-Erich

Only if it is a buckler. Other shields occupy your hand, so you would need to sheathe/drop your sword. If using a light shield, you can transfer the weapon to that hand.

You can hold a weapon in the hand with a light shield. You just can't wield it. So you can free action swap your weapon to your shield hand, standard cast your spell, then free action swap the weapon back.

PRD wrote:
Shield, Light; Wooden or Steel: You strap a shield to your forearm and grip it with your hand. A light shield's weight lets you carry other items in that hand, although you cannot use weapons with it.

Maybe you missed it, but I did say you can you can transfer the weapon to your shield hand if using a light shield.


Hmmm, so if you of are using a light shield this becomes a non issue.
As far as I know bards can't make a melee attack and cast a spell in the same round anyway.
Thanks guys.

-Erich


Erich_Jager wrote:

Hmmm, so if you of are using a light shield this becomes a non issue.

As far as I know bards can't make a melee attack and cast a spell in the same round anyway.
Thanks guys.

-Erich

They can with Quicken Spell.

Scarab Sages

Jeraa- I did miss that. Sorry.


Jeraa wrote:
Erich_Jager wrote:

Hmmm, so if you of are using a light shield this becomes a non issue.

As far as I know bards can't make a melee attack and cast a spell in the same round anyway.
Thanks guys.

-Erich

They can with Quicken Spell.

They can swap -> cast -> swap back -> melee in the same round.


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You could also use the Arcane duelist archetype that allows you to cast with your bonded weapon.


The Shielded Mage Feat is also an option. It lets you use your shield hand for somatic components.

A Ring of Force Shield works as well: deactivate - cast - activate.

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