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The level 1 Operative ability 'Operative's Edge' gives you a scaling insight bonus to all your skill rolls. (+1 at first level, +2 at level 3, etc)
You also choose a specialization at level 1, which gives you 2 free skill focus feats based on your specialization. Skill Focus gives you a +3 insight bonus to those skills.
This means, at level 7 and above, skill focus feats are worthless, as you are getting a +3 insight bonus just from being an Operative, and Insight bonuses do not stack.
Is this a typo/oversight? Or is it meant to become useless for Operatives to have Skill Focus at higher levels?
You get the ability to take 10 whenever you want in any skill you have the skill focus in once you hit level 7. You are correct that they bonuses don't stack.
You get the ability to take 10 whenever you want in any skill you have the skill focus in once you hit level 7. You are correct that they bonuses don't stack.
To be clear, the ability to take 10 in dangerous situations is a specific Operative class feature that they get to make the Skill Focus feat still valuable to them.
True, thank you for the clarification. I can see where what I said could be easily misconstrued.
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Even with being able to take 10, it seems like it steals a lot of the usefulness of Skill Focus.
A Ghost specialist taking 10 on acrobatics and stealth...I suppose taking 10 to enable your trick shot might be ok...but your skill will probably be so high that unless you rolled a 1 you would probably still get it.
Even with being able to take 10, it seems like it steals a lot of the usefulness of Skill Focus.
A Ghost specialist taking 10 on acrobatics and stealth...I suppose taking 10 to enable your trick shot might be ok...but your skill will probably be so high that unless you rolled a 1 you would probably still get it.
If that's the case, why not make it so that rolling a 1 isn't a problem?
Maybe, but it's a feat you get for free...
You could take the feat for other skills than the ones you get it for free...though it would be kind of silly to do, since Operatives get Operative's Edge.
Would be worlds better if they just made either Edge or Focus a different type of bonus, or specified that they stacked.
You also get the same "Take ten in any situation" bonus off any skill you have skill focus in, not just your specialization skills.
You could take the feat for other skills than the ones you get it for free...though it would be kind of silly to do, since Operatives get Operative's Edge.
Would be worlds better if they just made either Edge or Focus a different type of bonus, or specified that they stacked.
Pretty sure they thought that doing that would make Operatives too good at using skills. Note that a lot of other classes that get skill bonuses as a class feature, like mechanics and technomancers, can't stack those bonuses with skill focus either.
Yeah, I looked at the operative and my first impression was wow this is pretty much OP.