
Trish Megistos |
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The following numbers are shorthand for the different square distances you can threaten/attack, 1 being adjacent.
Medium sized: 1
Medium sized, long arm: 1 and 2
Medium sized, reach weapon: 2
Medium sized, long arm, reach weapon, 2 and 3
Enlarged: 1 and 2
Enlarged, long arm: 1, 2, 3
Enlarged, reach weapon 2 and 3
Enlarged, long arm, reach weapon: 2, 3 and 4
As I understand long arm is natural reach (doesn't specify, I further assume that this growth in arm length extends the reach for the weapons you're holding in them), so is enlarge. And enlarge gives +5 natural reach.
Correct?

Katapesh Fried Chicken |

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Trish Megistos |

The text calls out doubling in size and all that, but as far as reach is concerned it only specifies that an M creature growing to L gets a natural reach of 10, rather than 5. It seems a logical conclusion from the weapon growing in size though.
So if enlarge doubles the range (of the weapon), why wouldn't it enlarge the longer arms?
Making an enlarged long arm creature have a reach from 1-4.

Volkard Abendroth |

The text calls out doubling in size and all that, but as far as reach is concerned it only specifies that an M creature growing to L gets a natural reach of 10, rather than 5. It seems a logical conclusion from the weapon growing in size though.
So if enlarge doubles the range (of the weapon), why wouldn't it enlarge the longer arms?
Making an enlarged long arm creature have a reach from 1-4.
No, the Longarm spell increases a creature's reach by 5' regardless of the creatures size.

John Murdock |
don't forget that a reach weapon double your natural reach, so if you are enlarge you have a reach of 1 and 2 with a reach weapon its 3 and 4, enlarge and longarm its 1,2 and 3 with a reach weapon its now 4,5 and 6 now
Large or larger creatures using reach weapons can strike up to double their natural reach but can't strike at their natural reach or less.
so i would say that a medium or small also strike their double natural reach with longarm, since normally only large and larger creature have a natural reach that is more than 5 feat

Volkard Abendroth |
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don't forget that a reach weapon double your natural reach, so if you are enlarge you have a reach of 1 and 2 with a reach weapon its 3 and 4, enlarge and longarm its 1,2 and 3 with a reach weapon its now 4,5 and 6 now
Combat wrote:Large or larger creatures using reach weapons can strike up to double their natural reach but can't strike at their natural reach or less.so i would say that a medium or small also strike their double natural reach with longarm, since normally only large and larger creature have a natural reach that is more than 5 feat
Longarm does not double reach. Longarm adds +5' reach.
It does this regardless of the target's size, be it diminutive or colossal. It does this regardless of what the target is wielding, be it a natural weapon or reach weapon.

Volkard Abendroth |

i never say longarm double the reach i was talking with a reach weapon, longarm add 5 to your natural reach, so if enlarge+longarm+reach weapon you attack at 4,5 and 6 instead of 1,2 and 3
Long Arm does not increase your natural reach, it increases whatever your current reach is by 5'
For a large creature with a reach weapon, reach is increased from 20' to 25'

John Murdock |
Your arms temporarily grow in length, increasing your reach with those limbs by 5 feet.
you limbs have a reach of 5 more feat, so your natural reach is 5 more long, it never increase the reach of the weapon, so having long arm while being large the reach is 4,5 and 6 because without it its 1,2 and 3
enlarge: 1,2
Enlarge, Long Arm: 1,2,3
Enlarge, Long Arm, Reach Weapon: 4,5,6

Volkard Abendroth |

Long Arm wrote:Your arms temporarily grow in length, increasing your reach with those limbs by 5 feet.you limbs have a reach of 5 more feat, so your natural reach is 5 more long, it never increase the reach of the weapon, so having long arm while being large the reach is 4,5 and 6 because without it its 1,2 and 3
enlarge: 1,2
Enlarge, Long Arm: 1,2,3
Enlarge, Long Arm, Reach Weapon: 4,5,6
What is the creature's Reach?
- Medium = 5'
- Medium with reach weapon = 10'
- Large = 10'
- Large with reach weapon = 20'
Apply the following to each of the above values.
Your arms temporarily grow in length, increasing your reach with those limbs by 5 feet.
Nothing in the spell states a larger creature gains more benefit than a smaller creature. Reach is increased by 5' regardless of creature size.

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There's a FAQ that says you add long arm after doubling your natural reach not before.
FAQ

Volkard Abendroth |

and reach weapon double the reach of the creature, longarm increase the limb of the creature so it can attack 5 more feet, the natural reach of their limb is increase. like i said longarm do not double, reach weapon double it, longarm effect is before reach weapon effect
No, the natural reach is not increased.
Whatever the creature's current reach is is increased by 5'
That is all the spell says it does.

Volkard Abendroth |

There's a FAQ that says you add long arm after doubling your natural reach not before.
FAQ
Thank you.
I knew there was a FAQ, but it's not under the ACG, where Long Arm was published.

Captain Picard |
The following numbers are shorthand for the different square distances you can threaten/attack, 1 being adjacent.
Medium sized: 1
Medium sized, long arm: 1 and 2
Medium sized, reach weapon: 2
Medium sized, long arm, reach weapon, 2 and 3
Enlarged: 1 and 2
Enlarged, long arm: 1, 2, 3
Enlarged, reach weapon 2 and 3
Enlarged, long arm, reach weapon: 2, 3 and 4As I understand long arm is natural reach (doesn't specify, I further assume that this growth in arm length extends the reach for the weapons you're holding in them), so is enlarge. And enlarge gives +5 natural reach.
Correct?
An enlarged person with a reach weapon is 3 and 4, ie they can hit creatures 15 and 20 feet away, but not 5 or 10 feet away. An exception is the pole arm master (a fighter archetype) which can hit creatures 5 and 10 feet away with a pole arm, at a -4 penalty, though that penalty is reduced at higher levels.
An enlarged person with long arm and a reach weapon will be 3, 4 and 5. Pretty awesome with Whirlwind Attack, which is what I am aiming for. If you have the Lunge feat on top of that, it is 3, 4, 5, and 6.