Elemental Opposition Schools


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Instinctively I would think that this would include all the spells that have the [element] descriptor in their description even though they are not mentioned on the relevant arcane school pages. For example Fiery Shuriken, which doesn't appear on Fire.
Assuming this to be true, does it also apply to spells cast through the meta magic feat elemental spell?

Silver Crusade

I don't understand which is the question.
You can't select Elemental Arcane Schools as opposition schools, since they follow alternate rules:

Elemental Arcane Schools wrote:
Instead of specializing in a focused arcane school of magic, a wizard can choose to specialize in one of the elemental schools of magic. Like a normal arcane school, an elemental school grants a number of school powers and one bonus spell slot of each level the wizard can cast, from 1st on up. This bonus spell slot must be used to prepare a spell from the elemental school’s spell list. Unlike a normal arcane school, each elemental school requires the wizard to select his opposed element as his opposition school (air opposes earth, fire opposes water). He does not need to select a second opposition school. He must expend two spell slots to prepare a spell from his opposed elemental school as normal.


Void can, or rather has to.
Anyway, let me rephrase the question.

So you took water and got fire as opposition school. Fire provides a list of spells on different levels that are usable had you picked fire. My assumption is that this list exists to ease the decision making by presenting all the relevant spells you'd miss out on, well, make more expensive to use. I noticed that this list, specifically on the School of Fire, does not include Fiery Shuriken which has the Fire Descriptor. So my assumption is that this, and all spells that have the Fire Descriptor (but don't appear on that list) are scrutinized if you picked fire (or were assigned fire) as the opposition school.

Furthermore I wanted to know whether the double slot requirement also includes spells that were prepared with the Elemental Spell Metamagic feat.

Sorry for not being clear.

Silver Crusade

Trish Megistos wrote:

Void can, or rather has to.

Anyway, let me rephrase the question.

So you took water and got fire as opposition school. Fire provides a list of spells on different levels that are usable had you picked fire. My assumption is that this list exists to ease the decision making by presenting all the relevant spells you'd miss out on, well, make more expensive to use. I noticed that this list, specifically on the School of Fire, does not include Fiery Shuriken which has the Fire Descriptor. So my assumption is that this, and all spells that have the Fire Descriptor (but don't appear on that list) are scrutinized if you picked fire (or were assigned fire) as the opposition school.

Furthermore I wanted to know whether the double slot requirement also includes spells that were prepared with the Elemental Spell Metamagic feat.

Sorry for not being clear.

No, that's the list of all and only spells you consider "prohibited". You can cast Fiery Shuriken as normal. It balances out with the fact that you also have much less spells in your specialised school. For example, if you chose Fire as your specialised school, you could not prepare Fiery Shuriken using your bonus spell slot.


I see. Well, that's good too. Thanks.


Actually Planes of Power adds Fiery Shuriken to the Fire school.

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