intimitate for other things?

[Lady-J]

what are all the ways you can use intimidate in place of other skills? weather it be class features, feats or traits

[Lady-J]

i know hell knights can pick either bluff, diplomacy, handle animal or preform oritory

[toastedamphibian]

In place of an initiative check at the start of a duel.

I know, not technically a skill, but you could also use sense motive or bluff, so instead of one of those.... from a certain perspective?

[Lady-J]

toastedamphibian wrote:

In place of an initiative check at the start of a duel.

I know, not technically a skill, but you could also use sense motive or bluff, so instead of one of those.... from a certain perspective?

are there any actual mechanics to back up those claims?

[toastedamphibian]

Lady-J wrote:

are there any actual mechanics to back up those claims?

?

Duels

[Lady-J]

interesting but not really what im looking for

[Tacticslion]

Dot.

[Lady-J]

cant seem to find anything else

[toastedamphibian]

Lots of feats that let you change the result of an intimidate check (teamwork feat to play goodcop badcop, feat to make them angry) that are absurdly specific and terrible. None that I can find that replace other skills, though a couple ways to replace intimidate with another skill or your BAB.

Call Out could be fun, but is a rule nightmare. Possibly worth using for a Brawler occasionally, but not a feat I would ever consider actually taking.

[Lady-J]

toastedamphibian wrote:

Lots of feats that let you change the result of an intimidate check (teamwork feat to play goodcop badcop, feat to make them angry) that are absurdly specific and terrible. None that I can find that replace other skills, though a couple ways to replace intimidate with another skill or your BAB.

Call Out could be fun, but is a rule nightmare. Possibly worth using for a Brawler occasionally, but not a feat I would ever consider actually taking.

call out seems interesting, and no replacing intimidate with another skill would down grade it significantly as ill be taking intimidating prowess for str to intimidate in addition to cha so my intimidate will be massive

[Lady-J]

any one else have any luck or is Versatile Intimidation the only way to use intimidate for other social skills?

[toastedamphibian]

You can always just threaten people into pretending they belive you...

Terifying mask tifeling only, in place of some Sense Motive vs humanoids

Terrorizing Display and Taskmaster. Hobgoblin and whips only. Give Allies morale bonuses by demoralizing them.

Visceral Threat in place of bluff for feinting.

Tantrum Gnome only and only while raging. In place of bluff to feint, but feint bonus lasts till you hit them, not till you attack them.

[Lady-J]

thing is with versatile intimidation you are still doing the act of the other social skill just with the modifiers of your intimidate skill so your actually diplomasizing or bluffing but your using your massive intimidate bonus instead of what ever you have in bluff or diplomacy

[toastedamphibian]

Or, find a charismatic speaker. Someone with connections in the community, who can influence people and who is well liked. Kidnap their children and threaten to do even more horrendous things to them if they fail to assist you. No feats needed.

There are rules for long term coercion somewhere...

Oh cool, they made it into the srd.
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/skills/intimidate/