Rogue Talents and Magic Item Crafting


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Do any of the Rogue's Talents count as having a Caster Level for the purposes of qualifying for Magic Item Crafting Feats? There have been some posts in the past that referenced this but I wanted an official rule confirmation.

There are several talents such as Minor Magic and Major Magic that grant spell like abilities at a Caster Level equal to the Rogue's level so I wanted to be sure.

Thanks!


Gloom wrote:

Do any of the Rogue's Talents count as having a Caster Level for the purposes of qualifying for Magic Item Crafting Feats? There have been some posts in the past that referenced this but I wanted an official rule confirmation.

There are several talents such as Minor Magic and Major Magic that grant spell like abilities at a Caster Level equal to the Rogue's level so I wanted to be sure.

Thanks!

Spell-like abilities do not qualify. From the FAQ:

Quote:

Item Creation Feats: Does having a caster level from a spell-like ability meet the caster level prerequisite for selecting an item creation feat?

No.


For a combat rogue it can be still worth it to take Master Craftsman to qualify for Craft Magic Arms and Armor and Craft Wondrous Item. While the lost feat hurts, goodies like the Sword of subtlety (+4 attack and damage for sneak attack) can boost you quite a bit. The skill ranks should be no problem, at least.


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Sean K Reynolds wrote:
Quandary wrote:
FAQ wrote:

Item Creation Feats: Does having a caster level from a spell-like ability meet the caster level prerequisite for selecting an item creation feat?

Yes.

And this also enables crafting magic items who don't even involve the specific spell/SLA but require a certain CL for their effect, e.g. normal vanilla magic weapons/armor?

Correct.

In fact, until I found the "can use SLA" rule at the start of the Magic Items chapter, we almost ruled that an SLA creature could select the feat, but could only craft things that didn't have spell requirements, as all of the backmatter about item creation just talks about "have the spell prepared (or known, if a bard or sorcerer)," which would still allow for +1 weapons and such.

I found this response in another Rules Question which is why I'm asking for an official response from the Rules Team.

You can find it in this post: http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pt80&page=2?The-term-cast-as-a-part-of-abi lities-and-how


well even if you dont have the spell requirements a +5 to the dc will allow you to still craft the item


Gloom wrote:
Sean K Reynolds wrote:
Quandary wrote:
FAQ wrote:

Item Creation Feats: Does having a caster level from a spell-like ability meet the caster level prerequisite for selecting an item creation feat?

Yes.

And this also enables crafting magic items who don't even involve the specific spell/SLA but require a certain CL for their effect, e.g. normal vanilla magic weapons/armor?

Correct.

In fact, until I found the "can use SLA" rule at the start of the Magic Items chapter, we almost ruled that an SLA creature could select the feat, but could only craft things that didn't have spell requirements, as all of the backmatter about item creation just talks about "have the spell prepared (or known, if a bard or sorcerer)," which would still allow for +1 weapons and such.

I found this response in another Rules Question which is why I'm asking for an official response from the Rules Team.

You can find it in this post: http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pt80&page=2?The-term-cast-as-a-part-of-abi lities-and-how

The FAQ is an official response from the Rules Team. The caster level of spell-like abilities do not qualify as caster levels to meet prerequisites. Spell-like abilities can be used to meet specific spell requirements, however. Just not caster level requirements.


Also Sean's response dates to 2013, the FAQ to 2015, which makes the FAQ the most up to date.

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