If you wear a bat pelt, you may choose to adopt a form resembling the bat whose skin you wear instead of your normal bat form.
The feat in question allows a werebat-kin to transform into a bat a la Beast Shape II. That spell lets you change into animals that can be large in size. Coupled with the above, if you have the hides of a Mobat ir Skaveling, you can theoretically change into them, right?
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The feat works like Beast Shape II, which can transform you into the shape of an animal. Mobats are magical beasts and Skavelings are undead, so no you cannot take on their form with this feat since they are not valid forms for Beast Shape II. You could argue that you can take the form of a dire bat, however, as it's unclear whether the feat means the specific common bat, or any kind of bat.
The feat works like Beast Shape II, which can transform you into the shape of an animal. Mobats are magical beasts and Skavelings are undead, so no you cannot take on their form with this feat since they are not valid forms for Beast Shape II. You could argue that you can take the form of a dire bat, however, as it's unclear whether the feat means the specific common bat, or any kind of bat.
Because the feat Dire Bat Shape exists, this should be obvious.
Because the feat Dire Bat Shape exists, this should be obvious.
Not necessarily. The Bat Shape feat says you change into the form of a bat. This is an important question of whether it means Bat in a strict sense (meaning the common bat, which has a specific statblock) or a general sense (meaning any animal described as a bat). I would personally lean towards the broad interpretation, but I'd imagine you'll get table variation on that.
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If there's a feat that explicitly grants the ability to do X, then another feat that explicitly grants the ability to do Y should not implicitly grant the ability to do X. Especially when the second feat is a prerequisite of the first.
In particular, Dire Bat Shape says : "Prerequisite: Cha 13, Bat Shape, base attack bonus +3, werebat-kin.
Benefit: When you use Bat Shape to become a bat, you can choose to become a bat or a dire bat."
If I could already do that from Bat Shape alone, why does the Dire Bat Shape even exist?
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I would agree with Orfamay Quest. The ability is to turn in to a bat, not a bat-like creature. With that modifying feat, it adds another shape. It is a strictly modified version of Beast shape II. This is a feat that is available at level 1, so it is going to be balanced as such. It is beast shape II because that is the first to allow tiny. You change into a tiny bat.
Even with this limitation of only bat, it would be excellent for a sorcerer. Tony size AC bonus, dexterity boost, attack boost. Nothing more really needs to be squeezed out of it
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If you wear a bat pelt, you may choose to adopt a form resembling the bat whose skin you wear instead of your normal bat form.The feat in question allows a werebat-kin to transform into a bat a la Beast Shape II. That spell lets you change into animals that can be large in size. Coupled with the above, if you have the hides of a Mobat ir Skaveling, you can theoretically change into them, right?
Mark Seifter indicated the Bat Shape feat when adopting the form of a bat (normally diminutive), the polymorph is limited to becoming tiny (the limits of Beast Shape 2, which is cited by this feat).
So you don't use "bat-like" as much as diminutive bat at size tiny.