Racial heritage related


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The alternate racial trait: Giant Ancestry indicates "Humans with ogre or troll ancestry end up having hulking builds and asymmetrical features. Such humans gain a +1 bonus on combat maneuver checks and to CMD, but a –2 penalty on Stealth checks."

Would I need to take racial heritage (Ogre) on top of this in order to gain a feat such as Fetid Breath or some other Ogre feat? Because it sounds to me this Racial Heritage is just a feat tax, Giant Ancestry already indicates that I have giant ancestry in my blood. Shouldn't Giant Ancestry be enough of a prerequisite bypassing Racial Heritage (Ogre)?

Silver Crusade Contributor

By the rules, you would still need the Racial Heritage feat.

That said, ask your GM - there's a certain amount of logic to your point, and they might be willing to waive the requirement on that basis. ^_^

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This is giving me deja vu? Did you repost the same question a second time?


James Risner wrote:
This is giving me deja vu? Did you repost the same question a second time?

Technically, they're just very similar questions, rather than strictly identical.

Scarab Sages

Atalius wrote:

The alternate racial trait: Giant Ancestry indicates "Humans with ogre or troll ancestry end up having hulking builds and asymmetrical features. Such humans gain a +1 bonus on combat maneuver checks and to CMD, but a –2 penalty on Stealth checks."

Would I need to take racial heritage (Ogre) on top of this in order to gain a feat such as Fetid Breath or some other Ogre feat? Because it sounds to me this Racial Heritage is just a feat tax, Giant Ancestry already indicates that I have giant ancestry in my blood. Shouldn't Giant Ancestry be enough of a prerequisite bypassing Racial Heritage (Ogre)?

Just be thankful that Giant Ancestry only replaces Skilled. And it isn't a tax because the two are seperate - you don't need Giant Ancestry at all in order to take Racial Heritage (Ogre).

Though if you really want to go all Ogre, you could take Giant Ancestry to replace Skilled, and Adoptive Parentage (Ogre) to replace the Bonus feat. Then take Racial Heritage (Ogre) for your 1st level bonus feat.

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