I posted this in general and someone said this was more of an advice, so I added to advice. :)
I want to become a goblin that utilizes the roll with it feat. I was thinking maybe going monk and monkey style but what do you guys think would make this viable/useful. Also would I be able to equip spiked armor and roll into enemies hurting them? I also was thinking about going firebomber/winged marauder alchemist.Do you think this is a viable goblin build? Is there a better class that would use this feat better?
The campaign I will be playing is reign of winter if that helps :)
Thanks
~Mchawi
Only one of these I can answer....
Also would I be able to equip spiked armor and roll into enemies hurting them?
Not without something else specifically letting you (like another feat), and I don't think there is anything. Roll With It is clear that if you roll into someone you get hurt, it would say explicitly if they did too.
Bomb-focused and/or flying PCs aren't likely to get hit with melee-weapons, so that works against the Roll With It feat. I'd pick Barbarian myself, though largely for the comedy value.
Hmm...
I would go for something that's charge-focused. That's an excellent way to get the distance you need in the perfect angle too.
Maybe a Cavalier? Emissary gives you movement stuff. You can't roll with your mount unfortunately, so you might as well grab the beast rider archetype to pimp it out into an attack beast.
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Chaotic Neutral Bloodrager (Primalist) Goblin that worships Gorum. Take Gorum's Fighting style, use a greatsword, and vital strike.
You get hit, WHAM! Knocked back at least ten feet. You are staggered. You can still charge up to your movement when staggered. Vital strike them at the end of a charge.
Maybe do Barbarian (Feral Gnasher), 4 levels in Rogue (Scout), so you can sneak attack at the end of the round. Take the Anklebiter feat so if/when you lose the grapple control, you can start getting free bite attacks. Also, once you get improved lockjaw, you are no longer considered grappled with your bite and can swing your great sword around. Furious Finish sounds fun in those situations, as well as improved vital strike.
Also this will help.
It's only once a day, but it's cheap. You can get more than one of them and swap them after you use them.
You get hit, WHAM! Knocked back at least ten feet. You are staggered. You can still charge up to your movement when staggered. Vital strike them at the end of a charge.
All good until that last part.
Vital Strike: Can I use this with Spring Attack, or on a charge?
No. Vital Strike can only be used as part of an attack action, which is a specific kind of standard action. Spring Attack is a special kind of full-round action that includes the ability to make one melee attack, not one attack action. Charging uses similar language and can also not be used in combination with Vital Strike.
You get hit, WHAM! Knocked back at least ten feet. You are staggered. You can still charge up to your movement when staggered. Vital strike them at the end of a charge.All good until that last part.
Vital Strike: Can I use this with Spring Attack, or on a charge?
No. Vital Strike can only be used as part of an attack action, which is a specific kind of standard action. Spring Attack is a special kind of full-round action that includes the ability to make one melee attack, not one attack action. Charging uses similar language and can also not be used in combination with Vital Strike.
That's what Gorum's fighting style is for. It lets you vital strike on a charge while using a Greatsword. It also gets REALLY fun with trip and felling smash.
Also, Bloodrager is neat because the Demonic Bloodline can make you bigger. Alternatively see if you can play an oversized goblin.
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That's what Gorum's fighting style is for. It lets you vital strike on a charge while using a Greatsword. It also gets REALLY fun with trip and felling smash.You get hit, WHAM! Knocked back at least ten feet. You are staggered. You can still charge up to your movement when staggered. Vital strike them at the end of a charge.All good until that last part.
Vital Strike: Can I use this with Spring Attack, or on a charge?
No. Vital Strike can only be used as part of an attack action, which is a specific kind of standard action. Spring Attack is a special kind of full-round action that includes the ability to make one melee attack, not one attack action. Charging uses similar language and can also not be used in combination with Vital Strike.
Dude! I will definitely have to keep that one in mind.
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The new Heritor Knight prestige class also grants Vital Strike and it's improved feats on any standard action attack, which includes Spring Attack and particularly Deadly Stroke.
The new Heritor Knight prestige class also grants Vital Strike and it's improved feats on any standard action attack, which includes Spring Attack and particularly Deadly Stroke.
It won't work for Spring Attack, since it uses a full-round action. (If you had some way to use Spring Attack as a standard action, that would do it.)
Deadly Stroke is some pretty impressive technology, though. If I ever actually play one, I'll have to remember that. ^_^
It won't work for Spring Attack, since it uses a full-round action.
Is pounce a standard action? is there an easy way to get it?
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The new Heritor Knight prestige class also grants Vital Strike and it's improved feats on any standard action attack, which includes Spring Attack and particularly Deadly Stroke.It won't work for Spring Attack, since it uses a full-round action. (If you had some way to use Spring Attack as a standard action, that would do it.)
Deadly Stroke is some pretty impressive technology, though. If I ever actually play one, I'll have to remember that. ^_^
Oh right, damn. Maybe I was somehow conflating it with MONKEY LUNGE of all feats.
Whoops XP
But yeah, I'm pretty keen to play Heritor Knight just for that ability alone. So much potential! And the features are fantastic.
Is pounce a standard action? is there an easy way to get it?
Pounce is normally a full-round action as it is a part of a charge, BUT if you could charge as a standard action then MAYBE you have something there. But then you are getting multiple attacks so I'm not sure you are allowed to do that.
That said, another neat thing to do is play a Gorum-worshipping Barbarian to get Gorum's divine fighting style, and then Greater Beast totem for pounce. You get Vital Strike (only Vital Strike it seems RAW) on one of your attacks during the pounce! (The feat specifically says 'an attack', so I don't think it rules out pouncing)
BUT if you could charge as a standard action then MAYBE you have something there.
You can still charge up to your movement when staggered.
I'm pretty sure you can charge when staggered but you can only charge up to your movement instead of double movement
The Rhino Charge feat might also be part of such a build. There's some deep rules-parsing involved there, though, so I can't say right now whether it works or not.