Spells of 4th level and higher are not affected by the globe, nor are spells already in effect when the globe is cast.
So I'm not sure how this applies to summon and creation spells.
The Globe is already in place, a monster is summoned through summon monster I. Can it attack the protected wizard?What about a mudball created after the Globe?
Is the assumption here that the creation/summoning is the spell effect and once summoned/created they are no longer spell effects?
Spells of 4th level and higher are not affected by the globe, nor are spells already in effect when the globe is cast.So I'm not sure how this applies to summon and creation spells.
The Globe is already in place, a monster is summoned through summon monster I. Can it attack the protected wizard?What about a mudball created after the Globe?
Is the assumption here that the creation/summoning is the spell effect and once summoned/created they are no longer spell effects?
If an object or creature that is the effect of an ongoing spell (such as a monster summoned by summon monster) is in the area, apply the dispel check to end the spell that conjured that object or creature (returning it whence it came) in addition to attempting to dispel one spell targeting the creature or object.
So, the newly summoned monster is itself the effect, so it will be excluded from the globe. (There's probably a better source for that fact but I can't find it offhand.)
A creation spell manipulates matter to create an object or creature in the place the spellcaster designates. If the spell has a duration other than instantaneous, magic holds the creation together, and when the spell ends, the conjured creature or object vanishes without a trace. If the spell has an instantaneous duration, the created object or creature is merely assembled through magic. It lasts indefinitely and does not depend on magic for its existence.
Mudball has an instantaneous duration, so it is no longer spellbound by the time you throw it, so it goes right through the globe.
Hope that clears things up for you.
I see. So the conjured monster could stand next to the protected wizard, but could not touch him. What would happen if the wizard touched the summoned monster instead?
The reach of the globe invulnerability is essentially the wizard itself so the summoned monster cannot touch or attack it. What if the wizard attacks or touches the monster?
The question does not arise.
An immobile, faintly shimmering magical sphere surrounds you and excludes all spell effects of 3rd level or lower.
I'm fairly certain Trish is talking about the summoned monster attacking into a square covered by a Globe of Invulnerability.
Given the wording of the spell, I'd rule that a summoned creature created by an affected spell cannot affect anything within a Globe of Invulnerability, including the use of attacks. The wizard himself could of course attack the creature at their leisure.
But such a successful attack would not dispel the monster or something like that?
No, you're not moving the Globe of Invulnerability when you attack. You're reaching into the creature's square to attack it, outside of the area of the spell.
So the assumption is that the globe is exactly the size of one square?
Or is a tight fit, like a neoprene suit.
Being such, even the slightest of movements would expose body parts to the outside of the protective barrier.
What about magic passing through the square, such as a magic missile targeting a creature behind the wizard (direct line)?
A Globe of Invulnerability isn't a single square, it's a 10 ft. radius area spell centred on the caster.
Check the area effect diagrams for spells. A 10 ft. radius spell actually covers 12 squares.
Oh right, I completely missed that. Sorry and thanks.
But such a successful attack would not dispel the monster or something like that?
As the Globe explains, magical effects are supressed, not dispelled.
Note that spell effects are not disrupted unless their effects enter the globe, and even then they are merely suppressed, not dispelled.
You might rule the attacks "bounce back", the monster cannot enter the barrier, the monster dissapears if you stay on top of it - although still summoned, so it will reappear if you move away - the monster can move through the globe as if incorporeal... and you can also perfectly rule that summoned monsters can attack the wizard.
Be aware that an Effect creates or summons things rather than affecting things that are already present. Once the created or summoned effect is "here", it doesn't have to stay magical or maintain a spell level. Your GM should rule on a spell basis.
If someone casts a wall of Ice (for this scenario, let's say the Globe is of enough level to affect the wall) on top of your caster, the Globe would prevent the areas protected by the Globe to be afffected, so you'd essentially leave a "globe-shaped gap" on the wall...but if the same Wall of Ice is cast outside the globe boundaries, your caster might later approach the wall of ice and could even touch it, without the Globe creating a gap since the Ice Wall is no longer a X lv spell, but a shaped plane of magical ice.
And same would happen with a summoned monster. You won't be able to summon the monster next to the globe-protected wizard, but you could summon it away, and depending on how you rule it, it's no longer a Summon Monster X spell, but a (timed) spear-wielding goblin roaming around poking things.
Oh right, I completely missed that. Sorry and thanks.
Be aware that 10ft areas "centered on caster" are so weird (using base rules) that you can actually place a magic effect right next to the caster, and so can do a summoned creature. And depending on how yoyu rule the globe, you may not be able to use it offensively to "push" the monster away once it's there (in most "barrier spell" scenarios, if you try to "push" a barrier against something, either the barrier breaks or the target safely "crosses" the barrier and becomes unnafected by it's effects).
on a side question would a meta magiced 3rd or lower spell get past the globe if the final spell level is 4th or higher? like would a 7th level fireball effect it?
Metamagic feats normally ONLY increase the spell slot required to cast the spell, but do not increase the level of the spell itself. Specific feats directly increases the spell level.
It's the spell level what matters. For a spell to bypass the barrier, it's effective spell level itself must be higher than the barrier limit (using Heighten Spell metamagic for example)
An empowered fireball, for example, would be "blocked". Although requiring a 5th level spell slot to be cast, the Fireball spell itsef is still lv3 so a Globe will block it. But a Fireball heightened to lv5 would be considered a lv5 spell so it will cut through the globe as butter.