Divine Fighting Technique: Way of the Carving Blade with Vital Strike and other feats.


Rules Questions

Liberty's Edge

Divine Fighting Technique: Way of the Carving Blade wrote:

Initial Benefit(s): As a standard action, you can make a single attack with a falchion or a kukri in order to deal bleed damage to the target. When you make this attack, you do not apply your ability modifier (normally Strength, but potentially other modifiers) to the hit point damage dealt by your attack—instead, add an amount of bleed damage equal to this modifier. The bleeding can be stopped by a successful DC 15 Heal check or any amount of magical healing. Bleed damage from this benefit doesn’t stack with itself.

Advanced Prerequisite(s): Str 13, Dazing Assault, Divine Fighting Technique, Power Attack.

Advanced Benefit(s): Whenever you hit a bleeding creature with a melee attack using a falchion or a kukri, that creature must succeed at a Fortitude save (DC = 10 + your base attack bonus) or become staggered for 1 round.

Multiple attacks do not cause this condition to stack, and a creature that successfully saves against this staggering effect is immune to this effect for 1 round.

So could the initial benefit be used with Vital Strike, Cleave or Power Attack? Thanks

Scarab Sages

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This ability says its a Standard Action.

Cleave says its a Standard Action.

Vital Strike says its an Attack Action, which is a specific type of Standard Action.

Two standard actions may not be used with one another.

Power Attack, however, does not have an action associated with it. So you could use Power Attack with any of the above abilities.

Silver Crusade Contributor

What Tallow said, basically. ^_^

Liberty's Edge

Perfect. Better safe than sorry


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It looks like you can use vital strike with the advanced benefit though. So first turn you could make them bleed second turn vital strike, but unless they moved away from you it would probably be better to full attack (early access to vital strike via warpriest is the only time I could think that wouldn't be better).


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For the future, looking for Vital Strike Capability you'll want language like:

Whenever you make an attack as a Standard Action...

vs.

Make an attack as a Standard Action...

Grand Lodge

Sorry for the necro but does this stack with sneak attack damage?

Silver Crusade

You're still making an attack so if the conditions are right that would allow you get Sneak Attack then yes, just like you can still use Power Attack with the ability. Or were you asking about something else?

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