Can a Psychic bloodline sorcerer benefit from the Versatile Spontaneity feat?


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As the title says.

For reference:

Versatile Spontaneity:

You made a good name for yourself in part because you knew how to prepare for the challenges before you, even if your natural magical abilities lend themselves less to preparation and more to spontaneity.

Prerequisite(s): Int 13 or Wis 13 (see Special), ability to spontaneously cast 2nd-level spells.

Benefit: When you regain spell slots at the start of the day, you may opt to prepare one spell you don’t know in place of a daily spell slot 1 level higher than the prepared spell’s level. To do so, you must have access to the selected spell on a scroll or in a spellbook, and the spell must be on your spell list (even if it is not one of your spells known). This process takes 10 minutes per spell level of the selected spell.

You can cast the selected spell a single time, expending the spell slot as though it were a known spell being cast by you. Preparing a spell in this manner expends a scroll but not a spellbook. A spell prepared in this way is considered its actual level rather than the level of the spell slot expended. You can apply metamagic feats to the spell as normal, as long as the spell’s actual level plus the increases from metamagic feats is 1 level lower than the highest-level spell you can cast. For example, a 12th-level sorcerer with this feat, a scroll of fireball, and the Empower Spell metamagic feat could prepare an empowered fireball spell in her 6th-level spell slot.

Special: If you spontaneously cast arcane spells, you must have an Intelligence score of at least 13 to take this feat.

If you spontaneously cast divine spells, you must have a Wisdom score of at least 13 to take this feat.

If you have both arcane and divine spellcasting classes, you can use this feat to prepare a spell using a given class’s spell slot as long as you meet the associated ability score prerequisite.

psychic sorcerer bloodline arcana:
Your sorcerer spells and spell-like abilities count as psychic instead of arcane. You use thought and emotion components instead of verbal and somatic components when casting your spells.


No, unless Psychic can take it. You are a psychic caster to the same degree as the Psychic class. They had an FAQ on this issue, I believe.


It doesn't say ability to spontaneously cast 2nd-level arcane spells. So, you should be able to use it since you are still casting spells spontaneously. The only issue pops up under the special section. Since you have neither arcane nor divine casting, you'd have a problem.


DeathlessOne wrote:
It doesn't say ability to spontaneously cast 2nd-level arcane spells. So, you should be able to use it since you are still casting spells spontaneously. The only issue pops up under the special section. Since you have neither arcane nor divine casting, you'd have a problem.

Yeah, I figured it doesn't account for psychic magic because it hadn't been covered by the rules at that time, but I am unsure on how to proceed in regards to the special section. Maybe having a Int 13+ and wis 13+ just to be sure?


Each type of spontaneous caster needs a 13 in the casting stat of the associated prepared casting class. And the prepared casting class for psychic casting is...no one.

What I don't understand is why this expends a scroll. What a wasteful way to get around UMD in that circumstance for so little benefit.


Plausible Pseudonym wrote:

Each type of spontaneous caster needs a 13 in the casting stat of the associated prepared casting class. And the prepared casting class for psychic casting is...no one.

What I don't understand is why this expends a scroll. What a wasteful way to get around UMD in that circumstance for so little benefit.

It allows you to get around UMD and use your own CL and ability score modifier when you cast the spell; but yes you are right, it is very circumstantial.


Even if you argued that the omission of a prepared psychic caster just means you have no ability score requirement, where are you going to find a spellbook written for psychic casters? As noted above this isn't worth a feat just to use with scrolls.


It just has to be a spell on your list and in a spell book. An oracle with this feat can prepare Dispel Magic from a spell book.

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