Kensai and his "Chosen" Weapon

[Thesekar]

I would like to request that a topic about this be placed on the FAQ. I've seen multiple threads but it still doesn't clear the ambiguous text on the kensai's page and I haven't seen any confirmation from the FAQ to know.

My question is, if a Weapon Master (Fighter) can pick any weapon, regardless of proficiency or not, and a Bladebound Magus can pick any type of blackblade (So long as it meets the weapon requirements) it can be Simple, Martial, or Exotic, regardless of proficiency, why don't we get any clarification on what limitations the Kensai has with weapons he can and cannot pick? Considering also that Weapon Master can pick anything, and the reasonable assumption that the two archetypes are very similar (With the exception that Kensai must pick melee weapons, which even itself is very vague) that a Kensai could pick a simple weapon as his chosen weapon.

The only thing we have to go on is vague text that doesn't explicitly say for or against this case, and find correlation between two places we shouldn't have to. Even if a kensai couldn't pick a simple weapon, it'd provide less argument and issue if it was simply worded "When becoming a Kensai, pick a single martial or exotic melee weapon. In addition to all simple weapons, you gain proficiency with this weapon, and it becomes your 'Chosen Weapon' for the purpose of your abilities that affect it."

[James Risner]

If you want to make a FAQ post, make a 25 word or less statement:
The weapon proficiency choice of the Kensai is their chosen/favored weapon?

Post a list of links to as many threads as you can find, ideally you need 15-20 previous threads.

Ask people to not argue the positions in the FAQ thread, as if it gets locked you can't keep discussing it and collecting FAQ clicks.

[Thesekar]

Question: "Could we get clarification on the Kensai's 'chosen weapon' and whether we can pick simple, unarmed, or natural weapons instead of Martial or Exotic Weapons?"

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I can't find 15 or more posts. It's been discussed at length within the few threads containing it, but few people actually bring this up outside the threads about it already. Every time there's a post about Kensai though, people posting and people replying seem to have very little idea of what goes on. People suggest "Use dagger instead of chakram, can't use ranged weapons" When Dagger itself is a simple weapon, and other examples. I'll try to gather as many threads though where the Chosen Weapon comes into question, though.

http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pe3h?Is-there-a-reason-a-Kensai-cant-choose-a
http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2txn4&page=2?FAQ-Request-Kensai-Chosen-Weap on
http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p5ku?Kensai-and-natural-weapon-or-armor-spikes
http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2thx0?Retraining-the-Kensai-Archetype
http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2t6q6?Kensai-Eldritch-Archer-Magus
http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2t6ld?Stupid-Fun-Magus-Build-Idea-Kensai-Eldrit ch
http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2u1ya?Card-Caster-Kensai-Magus
http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qnji?The-Comprehensive-Kensai-Magus-Guide#37
http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2u3q2?Magus-questions
http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2rdp2?Kensai-Magus-Monk-Unarmed-Strike

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I'd like to ask that this thread be free from arguing over how Kensai or anything else works, so that it doesn't derail and get locked. Thank you.

[Cavall]

http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2txn4&page=1?FAQ-Request-Kensai-Chosen-Weap on

FAQ already exists.

[Thesekar]

Sorry, I checked that post prior, and checked the FAQ for any mention of Kensai but no FAQ answer. I feel like people forgot the thread existed after it derailed.

I'm not used to using this website as an actual member (Or even as a guest just looking for information), but if there's an FAQ post (not a thread looking for an FAQ post, but those also help) please direct me to where I can find answers. Thank you.

[Snowlilly]

Thesekar wrote:

Sorry, I checked that post prior, and checked the FAQ for any mention of Kensai but no FAQ answer. I feel like people forgot the thread existed after it derailed.

I'm not used to using this website as an actual member (Or even as a guest just looking for information), but if there's an FAQ post (not a thread looking for an FAQ post, but those also help) please direct me to where I can find answers. Thank you.

It is not an issue the development team has chosen to address.

[voska66]

I don't an issue.

You have weapons you are proficient in. Those happen to be simple weapons plus or melee or exotic weapon of your choice. Those are what you are proficient in.

Then you class feature that require to pick chosen melee weapon. No restriction on the type of melee weapon just has to be a melee weapon. It's as per the Dual Prestige Class. Once chosen that your chosen weapon.

[Cavall]

voska66 wrote:

I don't an issue.

You have weapons you are proficient in. Those happen to be simple weapons plus or melee or exotic weapon of your choice. Those are what you are proficient in.

Then you class feature that require to pick chosen melee weapon. No restriction on the type of melee weapon just has to be a melee weapon. It's as per the Dual Prestige Class. Once chosen that your chosen weapon.

Using that logic I defy you to tell me it even has to be a melee weapon.

[haremlord]

As the person who posted one of those I clicked the FAQ button because, why not? :)

Good luck! For RAW I'm leaning to the interpretation of the martial/exotic weapon prof you pick is the chosen weapon, but I really hope that isn't the case (because I still like the idea of unarmed or staff-wielding kensai, sub-optimal BE DAMNED!).