The Unchained Rogue talent Underhanded, can it be used with the Improved Unarmed Strike feat, or with an unarmed attack?
No, because those are never concealed weapons nor weapons your opponent didn't know about. "I pull my hands out of my pockets and behold, they are FISTS, didn't know I had those did you" doesn't fly.
No, because those are never concealed weapons nor weapons your opponent didn't know about. "I pull my hands out of my pockets and behold, they are FISTS, didn't know I had those did you" doesn't fly.
What if you roll bluff to convince someone you don't have hands first?
Would gauntlets work? They are a stat'd weapon. Or a form of brass knuckles?
I understand your thinking that hands will not work, but take a look at Imp Unarmed Strike. "You are considered to be armed even when unnamed", would that part of the Feat permit it? Or that the Feat allows you to do lethal damage? Would IUA change the standard unarmed strike enough to be considered a different weapon?
I'd allow it. Barring Unarmed Strike from being concealed is an inane restriction. A case can easily be made for a character with IUS approaching someone in a non-threatening way instead of literally concealing their hands to gain the bonus from Underhanded.
Unfortunately, from what I remember the last time I've seen this come up on the forums, the answer seems to be 'no'. This talent really was intended to be used with the specific mechanic of concealing a hidden weapon via the Sleight of Hand skill.
A spiked gauntlet might work, with GM's interpretation, but is still debatable. Although it's a light weapon and an object you could potentially conceal, attempting to hide a worn spiked gauntlet bypasses the whole standard action to draw it, and thus avoids a lot of the drawback behind this talent. It's also debatable whether you can conceal something you're wearing.
Unarmed strikes are a hard no, unless the GM rules you can use stealth or invisibility to be considered a 'hidden weapon'.
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Brass Knuckles, on the other hand...