It should be "5th edition and other Hasbro DnD products".
I don't know if it will matter much (I doubt a renaming is going to cause that many new posters), but it would certainly make sense to me if it were renamed to just 5th Edition (even if the forum description says *and 4th edition).
That's pretty much all that gets discussed there now, so I can't imagine anyone losing out.
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I don't know if it will matter much (I doubt a renaming is going to cause that many new posters)
I've no idea how many posters on theses boards use the 5th edition instead or next to Pathfinder but I can see that it might hurt the 5E community here if noone even finds the subforum here because of it's outdated name.
So it surely would hurt noone and, if renamed, might even direct some users here that might not have seen any reason to come here at all
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I think untangling the 5e threads from everything else in there is a manual process.
-Skeld
Yeah, I think the suggestion is just to rename it, not move all the 4E threads elsewhere.
At the moment it's the "4E plus some other stuff" forum. That's becoming less and less useful - "5E plus some other stuff" would be better (and will just get betterer over time).
Why should Paizo have a dedicated 5th edition forum? They don't owe WoTC or you one.
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Why should Paizo have a dedicated 5th edition forum? They don't owe WoTC or you one.
It's a good idea. There are groups that are hardcore Pathfinder who might dabble in 5e. Keeping them communicating here maintains contact with Paizo products. As well, there are groups who are hardcore 5e who might dabble in Pathfinder. Again, letting them communicate here maintains contact with Paizo products.
That said, I've been biting my tongue throughout this. I'd hate for someone to misinterpret me making a joke about anyone not realizing that "4th edition and beyond" includes 5th edition as an "edition war" post, rather than friendly joshing. So hey. Have a paragraph to make it clear it's humour, right after a paragraph embracing the target of that josh.
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Why should Paizo have a dedicated 5th edition forum? They don't owe WoTC or you one.
They already have one. It's just got a name that won't show up as easily if you're looking for 5E.
I terms of why, I suspect it's because Paizo recognise that liking 5E doesn't make you any less of a paizo fan. Nor is it harmful to them in any way to provide a place for the paizo community to talk about other companies' games.
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In addition, I will be GMing a couple 5e campaigns set in Golarion. It would be incredibly useful for me to have a dedicated 5e forum (that others can easily find) to shoot ideas back and forth with others. Not absolutely necessary, mind you, but helpful!
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Why should Paizo have a dedicated 5th edition forum? They don't owe WoTC or you one.
Why shouldn't they?
Or to be more direct... Why would paizo (an online gaming retailer) want to drive gamer traffic away from their site?
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Sure! I've ported all threads modified since September 2016. We can chip away as we have time, but if you find more nuanced threads that might be-less-than easy to identify by their thread titles for us to move, feel free to flag it.
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Awesome! Thanks Chris!!
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Sure! I've ported all threads modified since September 2016. We can chip away as we have time, but if you find more nuanced threads that might be-less-than easy to identify by their thread titles for us to move, feel free to flag it.
Thanks, Chris.
That's even better. :)
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Ported over, where?
I have a friend who used to DM a game in Waterdeep. He might buy the guide to the sword coast and run it Pathfinder. We had a group of adventurers who were on the time travel adventure when the game fell apart. It would be fun to have them return decades after they left.
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Ported over, where?
To the newly created 5th edition (and beyond) subforum.
There's a few active 5E threads remaining in the fourth edition forum, but they'll move those over gradually as workflow allows.
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Ported over, where?To the newly created 5th edition (and beyond) subforum.
Am I the only one who finds it amusing that it's "5th edition (and beyond)", expecting full-well that if there's a 6th edition, we'll be having this same discussion then, asking for a dedicated 6th edition area to avoid confusion?
Nope! :D
That said, I expect we've got a few years at the least...
Sure! I've ported all threads modified since September 2016. We can chip away as we have time, but if you find more nuanced threads that might be-less-than easy to identify by their thread titles for us to move, feel free to flag it.
Thanks, Chris! You rock!
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I will say it's useful to paizo in helping the bottom line. I say this as a pathfinder player who has never touched 5e. Right now I suspect 5e is outselling pathfinder. I think part of it is rules bloat and the barriers to getting into pathfinder (A good argument for 2e pathfinder but that's another conversation).
On the other hand most people I know who are familiar with both systems say that Paizo is superior in world building and the richness of the setting. There are plenty of discussions about converting adventure paths to 5e. If Paizo, while not condoning or supporting it, facilitated it by changing the forum name they encourage people to buy Paizo product.
This is win win.
Well, Paizo does sell 5th Edition D&D books in their store, so...
I am actually surprised that they did seperate it. I think it was last year (or even earlier this year) where this came up before. I forget which Paizo person said it, but they felt that seperating it wasn't needed, as the "(and Beyond)" portion encompassed 5th edition (as well as pre-3rd edition).
I am glad to see they did seperate it. Also, it is nice to have a place to talk about it, as not all those that play 5e frequent ENWorld or GitP or some other forum, since WotC decided to kill their own forum. So thank you Paizo for doing this, and for being awesome.
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Am I the only one who finds it amusing that it's "5th edition (and beyond)", expecting full-well that if there's a 6th edition, we'll be having this same discussion then, asking for a dedicated 6th edition area to avoid confusion?Ported over, where?To the newly created 5th edition (and beyond) subforum.
To clarify my reasoning behind the nomenclature: the subforum also houses 3PP supplement discussion and general D&D chatter. There is enough discussion surrounding 5E that the former forum was less-than-aptly titled and it seemed only reasonable to scoot the threads into a new home :)
To clarify my reasoning behind the nomenclature: the subforum also houses 3PP supplement discussion and general D&D chatter. There is enough discussion surrounding 5E that the former forum was less-than-aptly titled and it seemed only reasonable to scoot the threads into a new home :)Am I the only one who finds it amusing that it's "5th edition (and beyond)", expecting full-well that if there's a 6th edition, we'll be having this same discussion then, asking for a dedicated 6th edition area to avoid confusion?Ported over, where?To the newly created 5th edition (and beyond) subforum.
I just wanted to take a moment to:
a} thank you for bothering to explain your thought process and,b} having a very good one.
I never thought of "and beyond" as referring to related products as opposed to "higher editions". Now that you've explained it, it cannot be unseen.
Neat.