As the title says, suppose the Medium has a Champion spirit on and rolls a 1 on an attack roll or a fortitude save, does spirit surge activates after the outcome is revealed (hit/miss) or does the rolled 1 just make it a miss in any case?
After failing a d20 roll that was modified by his spirit bonus, a medium can allow his spirit to gain 1 additional point of influence over him in order to add 1d6 to the check's result without taking an action.This can cause the check to succeed instead of fail. The medium must be conscious and aware to use this ability, and he can use this ability at most once per round. At 10th level, the medium's spirit surge die increases to 1d8, and at 20th level it increases to 1d10.
A natural 1 (the d20 comes up 1) on an attack roll is always a miss. A natural 20 (the d20 comes up 20) is always a hit. A natural 20 is also a threat—a possible critical hit (see the attack action).
What do you think?
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You could, but it wouldn't help. It's a natural 1 and thus definitionally a miss no matter what you add to it.
Now, natural 1s are auto-failures only on attacks and saves, so you could absolutely add it in a meaningful way to a skill check or something, but it's just not gonna help on an attack or save that got a natural 1.
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I've had times when enemy AC is 5 and my min bonus is +7, meaning I'd hit on a 1, except it's an auto-miss. And so having an auto-miss be at +8 or +14 it's still an auto-miss.
I agree with everybody else.
Got it, thank you all for ur input