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Hello, my question is combo:Spellstrike+frostbite+enforcer, works or not?
I asked it because i dont see recent discussion
I would say no since Enforcer specifies "melee weapon", so frostbite wouldn't do anything for it.
Eh, not 100% on that though, so expect table variation.
If you really want to mince words, Enforcer only specifies dealing "nonlethal damage with a melee weapon," not dealing "nonlethal weapon damage."
Nothing in the wording of Enforcer specifies the source of the nonlethal damage, only that it is done with a melee weapon. Using Spellstrike to apply a rider effect that deals nonlethal damage with the melee weapon is perfectly fine.
Since Enforcer is not affected by the spell, can one use (Enforcer+Blade of mercy)+Shocking Grasp?
I think you can. From my perspective the weapon and the spell are two different things. So you can't use Enforcer just because of Frostbite, and you can use Enforcer despite Shocking Grasp. In both cases what matters is whether the weapon itself deals nonlethal damage.
And these are all of the ways that I know of to deal nonlethal damage with lethal weapons without a penalty.
Traits
Blade of Mercy (religion-Sarenrae): all slashing weapons
Merciful Scimitar (combat): scimitars
Mock Gladiator (social): any one weapon
Feats
Bludgeoner (combat): all bludgeoning weapons
Merciful Bane (general): any weapon currently affected by your Bane class ability
Stage Combatant (combat): any weapon for which you have Weapon Focus
Virtuous Creed, Mercy (general): all weapons
Weapon Special Abilities
Merciful: any weapon
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If you really want to mince words, Enforcer only specifies dealing "nonlethal damage with a melee weapon," not dealing "nonlethal weapon damage."
Nothing in the wording of Enforcer specifies the source of the nonlethal damage, only that it is done with a melee weapon. Using Spellstrike to apply a rider effect that deals nonlethal damage with the melee weapon is perfectly fine.
Spellstrike is decidedly clear, it is the spell not the weapon, that deliver the spell damage.
Spellstrike deliver the spell effect, then that spell effect do whatever it do.
Sarenrae's divine fighting style also allows nonlethal damage without a penalty.
What book is that from?
Divine Anthology.Sarenrae's divine fighting style also allows nonlethal damage without a penalty.What book is that from?
Thanks!