Animate dead and templates.


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This really isn't a rules question, more of a "Are all of the rules for this spell condensed to one place anywhere on the internet?"

I was talking with my gaming group and discussing my plans to go all Night King on our antagonist.

We got to talking about making GoT style wights and I was pitching raising bloody zombies and just sweet talking the GM into letting me add the cold template to them for 8x cost, and somebody else pointed me to the frostfallen template which actually includes rules for use with animate dead. So... instead I can raise a bloody frostfallen creature for 4x cost... which functions pretty much exactly like GoT wights.

I'd never heard of this before.

So, I'm really just looking for a list with all the templates that can be raised with just animate dead.


In addition to generic undead, you can make either burning skeletons or bloody skeletons.

Any other templates are purely the realm of GM decision.


Was hoping for more with prepackaged rules on their use, like frost fallen has an abdominal gemstone cost. My GM is notoriously wish washy when there isn't something prepared already. =/


Unfortunately, this is all that exists first party. Third party content certainly exists to flesh out (no pun intended) your undead options, but including those are up to your GM already.


Darn. Thanks anyway. Time to up my begging game.


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D20pfsrd lists a bunch of zombie variants, several of which say things like "by casting thus-and-such extra spell in addition to animate dead, you can make this kind of zombie." I think it's all Paizo stuff, not 3pp.


AFAIK, you cannot add two different templates to a creature.

Ruyan.


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RuyanVe wrote:
AFAIK, you cannot add two different templates to a creature.

I cannot find such a rule and do not believe this to be the case. Do you have a citation?


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Fuzzy-Wuzzy wrote:
RuyanVe wrote:
AFAIK, you cannot add two different templates to a creature.
I cannot find such a rule and do not believe this to be the case. Do you have a citation?

There isn't one, because he is wrong. You can put multiple templates onto a single creature (as long as one template doesn't make another invalid). For example, since we are talking about undead:

Quote:
Each of the following skeleton types modifies the base skeleton in a few key ways. Except as noted, these variations can be stacked with one another—it's possible to have a bloody burning skeletal champion.

That is 3 separate templates (Skeletal champion, bloody skeleton, burning skeleton).


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Ah, my bad, you're right.
Nothing from stopping you doing that.
Search for "template stacking" and you'll find 100s of threads discussing using different templates on a base creature.

Ruyan.


it's also worth noting that pathfinder typically assumes that multiplier are additive. like if you charge with a lance that has it's crit multiplier set to x3(plenty of ways to do that) it won't do x6 but x4 damage. this isn't always the case but considering it takes x2 hit dice for each template it's really the only way to get 3+ templates on one undead short of playing an occultist. and honestly i think we'd all rather have a bloody frostfallen giant skeletal champion rather than a pile of generic bodies. easier to run and more badass.


I'm not sure the OP will see your response since they posted this over 2 years ago.

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