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First off: whatever you're thinking of stacking it with, it won't. It's solely for the benefit of people only using the normal feat progression. It's pretty much a dead feat for anybody with a prestige class or archetype that speeds things up.
It will advance when you get your Deific Obedience boons by two levels, and let you pick from any of your deity's obedience boons for each one. You can get it at fifth.
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it does not alter your choices with a prestige? can you change each boon or are you on a specific track?
That's right, it doesn't. You would want to talk to your GM about retraining it because Run or Endurance would now be a better choice of feat. Specifically, it only alters boons granted by the feat, not by the prestige class. It adds incentive for players sticking it out without the prestige class.
You get to pick for each boon, yeah.
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Deific Obedience gives Exalted boons at character levels 12, 16, and 20.
Evangelist / Exalted / Sentinel get corresponding boons at prestige class levels 3, 6, and 9.
Divine Paragon Cleric archetype gets evangelist, exalted, OR sentinel boons at class levels 5, 11, and 14.
Divine Champion Warpriest archetype gets Deific Obedience as a bonus feat with Sentinel boons at character levels 12, 16, and 20.
Diverse Obedience treats a character as two character levels higher for purposes of gaining boons and they may choose evangelist, exalted, or sentinel for EACH boon.
Thus, Diverse Obedience gives early access only for those with JUST the Deific Obedience feat OR Divine Champions. Of course, the other options all have some form of 'early access' already.
Note, it is also possible to have something like a Divine Champion / Evangelist / Exalted multi-class character to get boons from multiple lines... though there is currently no way to get all nine of a deity's boons for a single character.
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looking to get three boons of Nethys, one from each list. Not sure if it is possible
Probably. It would depend on which three you are looking for. For example, there is no way to get Robes of Nethys, Pure Magic Aura, and Nethys's Protection on a single character... but Arcane Essence, Staff Channel, and Nethys's Protection would be simple - take any option granting obediences and then add the Diverse Obedience feat.
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Jason Wedel wrote:looking to get three boons of Nethys, one from each list. Not sure if it is possibleProbably. It would depend on which three you are looking for. For example, there is no way to get Robes of Nethys, Pure Magic Aura, and Nethys's Protection on a single character... but Arcane Essence, Staff Channel, and Nethys's Protection would be simple - take any option granting obediences and then add the Diverse Obedience feat.
Not any option, only the feat.
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CBDunkerson wrote:Not any option, only the feat.Jason Wedel wrote:looking to get three boons of Nethys, one from each list. Not sure if it is possibleProbably. It would depend on which three you are looking for. For example, there is no way to get Robes of Nethys, Pure Magic Aura, and Nethys's Protection on a single character... but Arcane Essence, Staff Channel, and Nethys's Protection would be simple - take any option granting obediences and then add the Diverse Obedience feat.
That is actually my list (arcane essence, staff channel, N Protection)
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QuidEst wrote:That is actually my list (arcane essence, staff channel, N Protection)CBDunkerson wrote:Not any option, only the feat.Jason Wedel wrote:looking to get three boons of Nethys, one from each list. Not sure if it is possibleProbably. It would depend on which three you are looking for. For example, there is no way to get Robes of Nethys, Pure Magic Aura, and Nethys's Protection on a single character... but Arcane Essence, Staff Channel, and Nethys's Protection would be simple - take any option granting obediences and then add the Diverse Obedience feat.
So yes, you can get them through the pair of feats, but you won't get the last part until level 18.
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Okay, 'Diverse Obedience' sounds perfect (or damn close) for my Desnan Oracle in our 'Wrath of the Righteous*' campaign (trying to get get 'Starlit Caster' but losing a caster level by going evangelist sucks at low level).
I don't see this on http://www.archivesofnethys.com or http://www.d20pfsrd.com/ yet: Which book does it appear in?
*Our version of WotR is lacking mythic feats, spells, and powers, so countering SR will be fairly important.
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CBDunkerson wrote:Not any option, only the feat.Jason Wedel wrote:looking to get three boons of Nethys, one from each list. Not sure if it is possibleProbably. It would depend on which three you are looking for. For example, there is no way to get Robes of Nethys, Pure Magic Aura, and Nethys's Protection on a single character... but Arcane Essence, Staff Channel, and Nethys's Protection would be simple - take any option granting obediences and then add the Diverse Obedience feat.
I disagree.
Diverse Obedience has two effects;
1: It increases your effective 'total HD' / total character level by 2 for purposes of gaining obedience boons. Since the three prestige classes and one of the archetypes which grant boons do so at specific class levels this provides no benefit to them. However, the Divine Champion archetype (and, of course, the Deific Obedience feat by itself) grant boons at total character levels 12, 16, and 20. Therefore, this aspect of Diverse Obedience also applies to Divine Champion... NOT just the Deific Obedience feat.
2: For each boon you gain you may choose from the Evangelist, Exalted, or Sentinel options. Nothing about this aspect of the feat says that it is tied to the Deific Obedience feat alone. Thus, so far as I can see, it applies to ANY of the various boon granting options.
Ergo, to get Arcane Essence, Staff Channel, and Nethys's Protection Jason could take the Sentinel prestige class and Diverse Obedience to get those boons at Sentinel levels 3, 6, and 9. OR he could take Deific Obedience and Diverse Obedience to get them at character levels 10, 14, and 18. OR he could take Divine Paragon and Diverse Obedience to get them at Paragon levels 5, 11, and 14. Et cetera.
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Point is, got a cleric of Erastil with the Animal domain and the evangelist boons. It's going to be awesome. ^_^
Note, you can also do that without Divine Paragon by going normal Cleric (or any other archetype) and Evangelist. You'd give up one cleric level (i.e. Cleric 10+9 / Evangelist 10), but keep both domains.
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Kalindlara wrote:Point is, got a cleric of Erastil with the Animal domain and the evangelist boons. It's going to be awesome. ^_^Note, you can also do that without Divine Paragon by going normal Cleric (or any other archetype) and Evangelist. You'd give up one cleric level (i.e. Cleric 10+9 / Evangelist 10), but keep both domains.
I could do that, it's true. The spells are really all I need from Community, though, and the archetype preserves those. Meanwhile, I get the boons even faster and don't drop any casting.
I'm just not that excited about regular cleric... and Divine Paragon is the express train to Boontown. ^_^
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Can someone please post the full text of the feat so I can see it, I do not have the book and it is not in the PRD
Diverse Obedience
Your intense faith in your deity allows you to gain boons not granted to most followers.Prerequisites: Deific Obedience, Knowledge (religion) 5 ranks, alignment must match that of your worshiped deity.
Benefit: You are treated as though you had 2 more Hit Dice than you actually do for the purposes of determining what divine boons you gain as a result of performing your deity’s obedience. Diverse Obedience doesn’t allow access to divine boons granted through prestige classes early, as those boons are tied to prestige class levels gained, not overall Hit Dice. If you take levels in a prestige class or archetype that offers accelerated access to a boon, this benefit may be superfluous.
Additionally, whenever you would gain a boon as a result of your Deific Obedience feat (and not through a prestige class), you can choose among the options available for evangelist, exalted, or sentinel boons. Once you make the selection, it is permanent, but you can choose from a different category each time you gain a new boon as you increase your Hit Dice.
(Emphasis mine. Both effects seem to cut out for prestige classes.)