I'm researching the Paladin class for a potential game and have a somewhat good story in mind revolving the paladin being a bit disillusioned from being a part of a rather bloody and terrible war as opposed to some grandiose adventure/crusade.
As far as Archetypes I'm liking Holy Gun or Tortured Crusader for potential use but then I saw the oaths. So I must ask, what are your thoughts on the above-mentioned archetypes, are there other archetypes you'd suggest in place of these to be a more direct application of ability corresponding to that specific snippet of backstory, what Oaths mesh well with the above mentioned archetypes, and what is your favorite oath and why?
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When I hear "disillusioned paladin" I think of the Grey Paladin. A paladin that gets to bend the rules a bit, because he's no longer quite the goody two-shoes he was before.
When I hear "disillusioned paladin" I think of the Grey Paladin. A paladin that gets to bend the rules a bit, because he's no longer quite the goody two-shoes he was before.
Oh jeeze I didn't see the extended archetype list at the bottom of the SRD entry... they need to extend that table. Thank you for showing me this.
When I hear "disillusioned paladin" I think of the Grey Paladin. A paladin that gets to bend the rules a bit, because he's no longer quite the goody two-shoes he was before.Grey Paladin is mechanically terrible though.
You're right it's not very good. Having the ability to potentially smite any opponent is pretty good, though even that isn't really a break even compared to what you lose.
However, it is spot on flavor-wise.
the issue with grey paladin is that you might as well be LG because commits an evil act is the whole reason not to be LG. the class mechanically is too much of a trade off for not really anything different than before.
It is like saying you can be a different alignment but still need to be lawful good, the greater good comes up and sure you can ignore it ow you can't because you willingly can't commit an evil act.
and yea Lawful good does not mean Lawful stupid but it might as well with that code of conduct.
you are better off being a cavalier or a samurai in my opinion. that on the other hand does not have the needed for Alignment.
I kinda have in mind going with a Tortured Crusader + Tempered Champion paladin since I can use both Archetypes together IIRC. The GM knows not to be a dick with the Code of conduct. Question then, can you take the above mentioned Archetypes with gray paladin?