Will a Cow continue to produce milk after being summoned with Summon Nature's Ally


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Seems like something that would traumatize poor Bessy...

Sczarni

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We are an easily entertained bunch of forum posters.

The Exchange

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Well, RAW cow isn't on the list to summon with summon nature's ally.


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Is Auroch on there, that's a primitive cow. Besides, isn't there a player's companion for summoning s#~&, seems like a cow would be in there...

The Exchange

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I checked the d20pfsrd and it was not listed even as 3rd party.


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Possibly, but would you have time to find out? You'd have to take a round to grapple the cow, then another round to attempt a disarm maneuver against its milk. Assuming you were successful, you'd need to have at least a 3rd level caster to summon it long enough to produce even a bit of milk. And by that level, you can cast ray of milk, so why bother with summon nature's ally?


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~rampages through the thread~ MOO!!!


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puts out a plate of bratwurst next to a sixer of beer with a t.v. blaring a sportsball game under an obviously hidden cage.

Rubs hooves together in anticipation.

Good, good! It's only a matter of time...


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Operation Pyramid-Cow gogogo (this involves lots of vague promises to 3rd level summoners, bring your friends!)


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Gamer Talk! How are my pressing rules questions going to get in the FAQ if they're stuck in Gamer Talk!

There isn't even a FAQ button!!!!


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Need to get a feat to make it a CELESTIAL cow.


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Well, everyone knows cows produce milk by siphoning it from the Plane of Dairy through their udders. Since summoning spells usually disable abilities that involve inter-planar travel, I'd say that cow's milk flow is disrupted for the duration.


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What happens when it intersects with the river of souls, I wonder.

Curdled Psychopomps I suppose. :-)


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While the question seems to be in jest... It is a valid rules question.
Other looks at the same question;
- can you get venom from a summoned spider?
- if your summoned wolf gets killed can you use it for meat?
- if you can find a way to summon a little dragon, can you keep the scales to make armor out of later?
- if a summoned spider poisons a foe do they remained poisoned after the summon runs out?


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It's not a cow, but if I remember right in the old boxed mega-adventure Night Below, there was a magical statute that summoned a roasted pig once per day. Best item ever.

Liberty's Edge

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Anything that come with a summoned creature disappear when that creature disappear. Included its milk.


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Diego is right, I guess. You'd have to research the spell Call Cow.

Edit: fixed a punctuation error.


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Diego Rossi wrote:

Anything that come with a summoned creature disappear when that creature disappear. Included its milk.

Is this official? It would mean conditions like poison and disease vanish when the summoned creature that inflicted them does.


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But what about what happens to it when it goes back to where it came from.

Suddenly appearing in a s@#* storm for half a minute then *pop!* back in the field.

That's gotta have some effect on poor Bessy.

Shadow Lodge

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Well, presuming it was producing milk during the time frame in which it was summoned, and not overly traumatized while summoned, it certainly makes sense. But just because it can produce milk doesn't mean it can at that moment. The cow may have already been milked, or have fed its calf. Modern dairy cows produce a lot of milk. They've been bred for it. Feral cattle don't produce nearly as much milk; barely enough for their calf. Milking a summoned cow is going to leave a young hungry calf or a farmer someplace without.

Liberty's Edge

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Aranna wrote:
Diego Rossi wrote:

Anything that come with a summoned creature disappear when that creature disappear. Included its milk.

Is this official? It would mean conditions like poison and disease vanish when the summoned creature that inflicted them does.

It is explicit only for spells and spell effects, but it seem a logic consequence, especially as it has been explained by the devs that all the creature equipment disappear.

The damage dealt by the poison or disease stay, but unless the microbes had the time do spread a disease would disappear, same thing for the poison in your body.


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Did we ever get an answer for this.

Seems like something for the Ultimate Wilderness wheel house.

Grand Lodge

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I'm more curious if we can get a summoned chicken to lay an egg; I'm hungry not thirsty!
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It would suck to squeeze some milk from a Summoned cow, then right as you're beginning to drink it, the duration ends and your drink disappears.

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Summon an eagle for the eggs or a Celestial Eagle for some angel-eggs. Then make deviled eggs with them.


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The game Baldur's Gate has been proven that summoned cows will never produce milk ever again

:) :)


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They need a spell called Summon A Milked Goat.

There is no angrier animal then a milked goat.

Except maybe a Honey Badger.


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As spider venom does not disappear from a goblin's wound, milk from a monster cow will not disappear from someone who drank it.

All summoned creatures are copied from outer planar archetypes. A summoned cow simply winks out of existence when the spell ends.


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Presumably there's a 50-50 chance of a summoned creature being male...

Grand Lodge

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But Matthew, you can milk anything with nipples.


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No way am I clicking on that link.


Matthew Downie wrote:
No way am I clicking on that link.

Having not clicked it, yet, I am absolutely confident it is a link to a clip from the film Meet the Parents - not a great film, but with several memorable moments, one of which included the would-be groom (Ben Stiller) making an off-hand comment (relevant to the conversation) about being able to milk "anything with nipples" - he was referring to animals). The father (who hates Stiller's character) then immediately calls him on it in a demeaning way, but noting, "I've got nipples; can you milk me?" or something similar.

Also, it highlights over YouTube and I think YouTube doesn't allow things that are toooooooooo bad, so.

Non-edit: and, yeah, I was basically right.

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