Intimidating undead

[Burnscar]

So... Can you demoralize a vampire?

It seems to me yes. Undead are immune to mind-affecting abilities. They're not specifically immune to fear.

Demoralize is a fear effect, according to faq.

So, unlike in 3.5e, (where the PHB specifically said that fear effects are mind-affecing) you should be able to intimidate undead in pathfinder.

Yes? If no, which text says am I wrong?

[Ridiculon]

FAQ on Fear, also I'm pretty sure any spell that causes a fear effect has the mind-affecting descriptor. Undead may not be immune to fear itself, however they are immune to almost every way a PC has of giving them a fear effect.

[Imbicatus]

The only way to make them afraid is via magic that explicitly makes them afraid, or via a special ability to overcomes their immunity, such as the sorcerer undead bloodline, or the mesmerist psychic inception bold stare.

A very easy way to panic an undead is chill touch.

[Claxon]

Per the FAQ, intimidation is a mind affecting fear effect. So no, you can't demoralize a vampire as undead are generally immune to mind affecting things.

[Entryhazard]

It's even explicitly stated in Ultimate Intrigue that you cannot scare undeads (and Paladins) by Intimidation alone, and that threats should be delivered as convincing consequence arguments through diplomacy or a verbal duel

[Claxon]

Entryhazard wrote:

It's even explicitly stated in Ultimate Intrigue that you cannot scare undeads (and Paladins) by Intimidation alone, and that threats should be delivered as convincing consequence arguments through diplomacy or a verbal duel

Unless you're an Antipaladin ;)

Paladin: "Oh my god! I'm feeling fear for the first time!"