Mauler Familiar Transformation Time


Rules Questions


How long does it take for a Mauler Familiar to change from normal form to battle form?


I've seen the rule brought up before. Unless specified otherwise, Supernatural abilities are standard actions.


It's a supernatural ability with no other specifications, so it's a standard action.

Edit: Got ninjaed, so brining up that the duration is unlimited. Most maulers just stay in battle form all of the time.


Thanks!

Scarab Sages

Follow-up question: Does the mauler's strength bonus, and increase in size, stack with polymorph effects? As far as I can tell, it isn't a polymorph effect, so casting, say, Beast Shape II on a medium-sized Mauler SHOULD use its medium size attributes, right?


It isn't officially a polymorph effect, but the developer has stated that it should be.


Kifaru wrote:
How long does it take for a Mauler Familiar to change from normal form to battle form?

although I will note- the ability has no time limit, so there is little mechanical reason not to have it on all the time.

It is more a fashion thing. "oh, it is such a faux pas to have an eagle larger than I am in the foyer".


Then again, imagine the benefits of a Mauler bonded to a Small creature. BEHOLD! FREE MOUNT!

Liberty's Edge

Most size change don't stack with polymorph effects but the mauler Battle form lack that caveat.


Diego Rossi wrote:
Most size change don't stack with polymorph effects but the mauler Battle form lack that caveat.

Yes, officially the battle form isn't a polymorph effect. But it was intended to be and would likely gain that tag if it ever gets errata or FAQ. Frankly, I think it needs a FAQ pretty bad to make it clear that you are intended to use the polymorph size change table.

Grand Lodge

But little Mira so enjoys hiding in my sleeves and running around on my shoulders, dearie.

Liberty's Edge

Melkiador wrote:
Diego Rossi wrote:
Most size change don't stack with polymorph effects but the mauler Battle form lack that caveat.
Yes, officially the battle form isn't a polymorph effect. But it was intended to be and would likely gain that tag if it ever gets errata or FAQ. Frankly, I think it needs a FAQ pretty bad to make it clear that you are intended to use the polymorph size change table.

I was referring to something different. Effects that change your size generally aren't polymorph effects, they are trasmutation effects, but normally they don't stack with polymorph effects if those would change your size.

PRD Magic section wrote:


In addition, other spells that change your size have no effect on you while you are under the effects of a polymorph spell.

As the mauler familiar original size almost certainly isn't medium we have a problem.

If beastashape make it a medium creature we have 2 effects that increase size, even if the result is the same size for both effects.

If beastshape make the mauler large or larger they don't stack for the above rule.

If beastshape make it small or smaller it could work. (You can't stack 2 effects that make you smaller, but there is no rule about staking 2 effects, one that make you larger and one that make you smaller).

Sadly my GM hasn't brought that argument, so my wolf anima companion can't benefit at the same time from Animal growth and Reduce animal. A pity, maneuvering a huge wolf in a dungeon is always a problem.
:D

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