Looking for some build advice.
I'm going to be playing in Hell's Vengeance and have gotten approval from the GM to have my character work toward becoming a Lich before the campaign is over. (Or at least try)
We will be using the Eternal Apotheosis ritual from Occult Realms for the process. Based on other things I have read I think I will be going for the Agent of the Grave PrC to help with the required skill checks.
I'm trying to figure out what kind of caster would be fun and interesting to play and have the best chance of completing the ritual?
The ritual will require some tough Arcana, Religion and Spellcraft rolls so I will need to have those maxed out.
The trick is I don't want to play a necromancer, just a guy that wants to live forever and sees becoming a Lich as the best option.
My first thoughts are a human Enchanter or Conjurer but wanted to see what better ideas the hive brain might be able to come up with.
Suggestions on builds, individual feats, traits etc would be great.
BTW - 20 pt buy and all Paizo products are available.
Do you have to be an Agent of the Grave? The PrC basically gives nothing that's not necromancy related and speaking from experience (I played an oracle/AotG to 13. Died in the encounter he would have went to 14) the PrC isn't that great to begin with.
It's very niche, and its rewards are barely worth it for the specialists that benefit from its abilities. They're basically wasted levels for anyone else. And a lost caster level to boot.
The AotG is not required, it just seemed like the +5 on the skill checks for the ritual would be nice plus a few other abilities.
I had missed the caster level loss, so thanks for mentioning that.
Other suggestions on getting to Lich?
Cool, that makes things a little easier. I half-thought your GM was requiring you to take AotG to become a Lich in the first place.
Do you have any idea HOW high the DCs are going to be for your ritual? 30s? 40s? 50s?
What would you like to be able to do?
You may actually be better off making a new thread in Advice with a more accurate title and a few more details. It's basically "Ideas for building a high level caster with enormous Spellcraft Kn. Arcana and Religion?".
Arcanist could be interesting. If you don't mind a mild necromantic focus, Twilight Sage is an interesting archetype.
Consume Life especially is a very flavorful alternative to Consume Spells. And dying enemies are a MUCH more renewable resource than spell slots.
No the AotG was my idea, but thanks to your advice I'm moving away from it at this point.
The DC's are 34 for 9 checks.
I did some math last night and found a few things that will help with those DC's and that make not taking AotG not matter.
For the ritual I can get up to +8 for having additional casters (which are really just sacrifices) and having caster levels. I also can eliminate 3 of the 9 checks which can eliminate one type of check.
I figured at level 10 with max ranks, Int of 20 and skill focus in the two skills I will be at +33 for the checks.
The question of what would I like to do is the big one and I'm not sure. I hadn't looked at the Arcanist so I'll have to do that tonight.
Oddly enough, Bard. They get some bonuses based on specialty.
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No the AotG was my idea, but thanks to your advice I'm moving away from it at this point.
The DC's are 34 for 9 checks.
I did some math last night and found a few things that will help with those DC's and that make not taking AotG not matter.
For the ritual I can get up to +8 for having additional casters (which are really just sacrifices) and having caster levels. I also can eliminate 3 of the 9 checks which can eliminate one type of check.
I figured at level 10 with max ranks, Int of 20 and skill focus in the two skills I will be at +33 for the checks.
The question of what would I like to do is the big one and I'm not sure. I hadn't looked at the Arcanist so I'll have to do that tonight.
Arcanist is quite a good idea for a Lich over Wizard because it can give you two reasons to boost Cha.
I ended up doing an Arcanist Occultist since we are doing Hell's Vengeance. Thanks for the thoughts and suggestions.