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I'm thinking about to play a child in the next campaign( it s a porate camlaogn inspired by one piece). I think to him like a potent spellcaster with high charisma for becoming the leader.
The 3 classes i can think about are sorcerer( but she has too low skill),the oracle( but she has poor blaster spells) and shaman( but some spirits don't deserve high charisma). Can you help me build him?( 3rd party not allowed except for the oracle curses).
An oracle can be a decent though not amazing blaster. With the blackened curse or the flame mystery or the spirit guide archetype/flame spirit you get fire spells; a lunar oracle who casts inflict spells (possibly with reach spell) can confuse the enemy; a waves mystery oracle who takes an archetype which can add some cold-damage spells (e.g. ancient lorekeeper or spirit guide/waves spirit) can slow the enemy.
Or for some charisma but not a major focus you might play an arcanist, which practically builds itself.
Or, there's ways to make social skills key off intelligence instead, which makes a wizard doable as a leader.
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An oracle can be a decent though not amazing blaster. With the blackened curse or the flame mystery or the spirit guide archetype/flame spirit you get fire spells; a lunar oracle who casts inflict spells (possibly with reach spell) can confuse the enemy; a waves mystery oracle who takes an archetype which can add some cold-damage spells (e.g. ancient lorekeeper or spirit guide/waves spirit) can slow the enemy.
Or for some charisma but not a major focus you might play an arcanist, which practically builds itself.
Or, there's ways to make social skills key off intelligence instead, which makes a wizard doable as a leader.
wizard and arcanist cant be childreen characters, they had to study years
There's a child curse from tripod machine.
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/oracle/oracle-curses
(Sorry for not linking, on phone)
How do you define potent spell caster? If your requirements are full 9th level spell progression then the three options you listed are pretty much the only thing that will work for you. If you are willing to accept casters who max out at 6th level spells, but still get full caster level then either bard or summoner could work.
Bards don’t get many blast spells, but they do get a lot of enchantment and illusion spells which can be quite powerful. They also get plenty of skills including all the social skills necessary to be a leader. Take the Magician archetype to give you a few blasts and max out use magic device for wands, staves and scrolls.
Summoners also are a little lacking on blast spells but do get summon monster. Take summon monster at each level spell so you can summon while your Eidolon is active and flood the battle field with summons. Pick up spell focus conjuration and augmented summoning to further increase their power. Have your Eidolon be your “Imaginary friend”.
If you are going for a human sorcerer you are going to want the extra spells for the favored class bonus not extra skill points.
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How do you define potent spell caster? If your requirements are full 9th level spell progression then the three options you listed are pretty much the only thing that will work for you. If you are willing to accept casters who max out at 6th level spells, but still get full caster level then either bard or summoner could work.
Bards don’t get many blast spells, but they do get a lot of enchantment and illusion spells which can be quite powerful. They also get plenty of skills including all the social skills necessary to be a leader. Take the Magician archetype to give you a few blasts and max out use magic device for wands, staves and scrolls.
Summoners also are a little lacking on blast spells but do get summon monster. Take summon monster at each level spell so you can summon while your Eidolon is active and flood the battle field with summons. Pick up spell focus conjuration and augmented summoning to further increase their power. Have your Eidolon be your “Imaginary friend”.
If you are going for a human sorcerer you are going to want the extra spells for the favored class bonus not extra skill points.
My DM hates summoners, so i don't like to do one of them, i played bard in my last session, maybe i can go shaman since i like debuffing, but the only spirit i can think for a pirate/water campaign is the waves one, and it's not the best one.
If your GM hates a class don’t play it. The magician archetype actually trades out most of the ionic bard abilities so it probably is very different then your previous character. But I can understand wanting to play something different.
If you want to be a blaster an oracle of flame gets a lot of blast spells. It may seem strange to focus on fire in a water based campaign, but it can be quite devastating. Since ships are made of wood fire is one of the most feared things on a ship. If the GM allows the burning Magic revelation to apply to ships it will allow you to absolutely devastate other pirates. The same would be true if you took the spirt with a shaman. Not to mention most sea creatures are not immune to fire so it makes a good weapon
You could always go wildblooded sorcerer with the Arcane/Sage bloodline to use Int as the casting stat. With a 12-14 Cha and lots of skill ranks from a 16-18 Int, you should be able to do fine as a leader. The extra spells from New Arcana and the human alternate favored class bonus are pretty nice, too.
If you're thinking "power" in terms of blasting damage, check with your GM if combining crossblooded and wildblooded archetypes is allowed.
Warlock Vigilante? It's int based, but since you have no need for strength, a good will and are only a 6th level caster, you should have plenty of points for a good charisma score. You get the full suite of 1-6 sor/wiz spells, 4 sp/level, social talents, and mystic bolts which are a pretty decent fallback in combat.
Generally, yes, but those tables can be ignored. Unless you think Harry Potter remained 1st level until he turned 24 or so. (yes, I realize that, by pathfinder standards, he was probably more sorcerer).
Anyway, if you want sorcerer, keep in mind that by being human and using your FCB in sorcerer, you can get a minimum of 4 skill points per level, 5 with only a minor bump to your Int.
Have you considered the Witch? Great at debuffing, up to level nine spells, and depending on the patron you pick there are some really great options. Yes I know they are an Intelligence based caster but you mentioned the main issue with the Sorcerer was the lack of skills and traits can let you pick up other skills. Just keep the Intelligence and Charisma up and you can have a blast.
If you are determined to play a Charisma based caster there is an Magus archetype, the Eldritch Scion. The Magus takes a little while to get used to playing but I had a blast playing this class. The archetypes I have played with are the Kensai and the blade bound ones though.
I mention the two Intelligence based classed because it takes more than a high Charisma to lead, in my opinion at least. If I were to pick a magical class to lead with that was a Charisma based caster it would be a bard or an oracle. A leader is not the one out in the fight but in the back issuing commands and aiding their companions. Both of these classes have a good spell list for helping others. You are wanting to play a young child and lead at the same time. This child needs a way to convince others to follow them.
Below are these options that I would either play or allow in my games. All of these options will take a bit of work on the GMs part but that is what they are there for. These are things that in my mind give your PC a little extra reason for adults to want to follow them.
With the Witch you could take improved familiar and get a Pipefox, these critters are know for helping and giving information out. And they are adorable!
With the Magus I would take the Blade bound archetype for the sentient weapon. Give is a history. The blade of a long dead hero. Get it tied to whatever the plot is.
Or with an Oracle take the Seer archetype. You have visions of what is to come or the past depending on the plot. This is a really easy way for the GM to get the party back on point and keep the plot moving. Especially if the party has missed something.
I hope this help
DAA
