Intimidating bloodrager


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Hi, I have a bloodrager lv4 that is really good at intimidating. But I"m not sure what to do with his good intimidate. I know of Cornugon Smash, but other than that I'm not sure how to efficiently leverage this skill.


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Hurtful


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Hurtful is a feat from the Monster Codex; I believe it's specific to Hobgoblins? Even if your race is Hobgoblin, I wouldn't assume you have access to that feat without asking your GM first.


Omen wrote:
You are the harbinger of some future event. Whether this event bodes good or ill, you exude an ominous presence. You gain a +1 trait bonus on Intimidate checks, and Intimidate is always a class skill for you. Once per day, you may attempt to demoralize an opponent as a swift action.

Okey, you're level 4 now and traits are chosen at character creation. But if, for any reason, you get the opportunity to change an existing trait or gain a new one I recommend the one above.

It's hardly awesome but it's nice. At least to me, Demoralize Opponent is a too weak de-buff to be worth a standard action most of the time. Omen lets you use it as a swift action (albeit once per day) and as a bloodrager you're likely to have a swift action to spend.


Dazzling Display can extend your demoralize attempt to everyone in 30', and there are various further feats in that line. Whether you'd have the spare feats as a bloodrager is another matter.


do you play PFS?

If not, exchange your 8th Level bloodline power for the two rage powers intimidating glare and terrifying howl

The Power attack - Cornugon Smash - hurtful line is very powerful as well. One extra attack for the coast of 2 feats. The d20pfsrd does not say anything about Hobgoblin, but if you play by the books, you got to ask.

If you want to combine it with the rage powers, skip Cornugon Smash and just take power attack and hurtful. Effectively you stare as a move Action, attack as a Swift Action und howl as Standard Action, which hopefully makes your target flee in Terror. You've got to be fast though, but thankfully most bloodragers are fast.


Prof. Löwenzahn wrote:

do you play PFS?

If not, exchange your 8th Level bloodline power for the two rage powers intimidating glare and terrifying howl

The Power attack - Cornugon Smash - hurtful line is very powerful as well. One extra attack for the coast of 2 feats. The d20pfsrd does not say anything about Hobgoblin, but if you play by the books, you got to ask.

If you want to combine it with the rage powers, skip Cornugon Smash and just take power attack and hurtful. Effectively you stare as a move Action, attack as a Swift Action und howl as Standard Action, which hopefully makes your target flee in Terror. You've got to be fast though, but thankfully most bloodragers are fast.

Found it - it was Bugbears.


Dang forgot to mention, yes this is for PFS.
So this character was going for hurtful when it was legal. But I got 3 levels in and then they removed hurtful from the legal options. So I iceboxed the character for awhile and am now trying to see what to do with that feat gone.

Grand Lodge

I am a fan of C. Smash + Power attack and a Cruel weapon. If you play Half-orc you can get an extra +2 to the Intimidate. I do not like wasting action economy and a Free action is FREE.

I personally dislike Dazzling display as a feat (By itself) as it takes a full-round action and you could have killed something by then typically. Sinking too many feats into just scaring enemies has never been my style. As a bloodrager your main role is to deal damage first. Anything else is just gravy. At least that is how I look at the game and action economy. Remember even with a -2 to attack they can still hit...and are still alive to try to kill you...if they are dead...they are not a threat and can no longer cause harm or turn the fight.


So anyone else know of a class to multi-class into, magic items or other feats that work well with intimidate?


Magic items:

Hellscourge - you'll need exotic weapon proficiency though

Helm of fearsome mien - let's you get intimidating glare without Primalist as far as I can see

Feats:

Soulless Gaze - you need another damnation feat (propably useless to you) bu then you can easily Cornugon Smash and increase the fear conditions with every blow.

Disheartening display - you Need Dazzling Display as a prerequesite, but then you can increase fear effects for large numbers of opponents.

I don't know if any of these are banned in PFS.

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